Guns and stuff made in China

[Gewehr98]

I bought 4 Norinco 1911A1's when they were still being imported.

That Norinco can't cost much less new than a Rock Island or Springfield, can it?

Guess what I paid for them each? $219.95, CSI Ontario, California being the importer. I bought them on the recommendation of a master 1911 smith, who was less than impressed with both Colts' and Springfield's offerings and prices. The forged steel and dimensional accuracy of the Norinco was already becoming well-known in the custom 1911 circles. It was a poorly-kept secret that many an IPSC or custom carry gun, including a couple of mine, got their start on a Norinco frame and slide. I have no remorse for doing the same, it was a superior quality product at a very competitive price.

I do, however, find it ironic that our same flag-waving patriots who would have us avoid purchases of Chinese goods haven't had a good look inside their computer's cases. If they did, I'd love to see the looks on their faces.

 

[Joejojoba111]

Thought of something ironic-

It's illegal to buy Chinese firearms, countries are limiting the amount of Chinese goods they can import (especially textiles) and generally trying to stifle Chinese economy using their competitive advantage... And the reason given is because they might attack us, in some way shape or form, maybe even just a sneaky economic warfare. The point is we limit Chinese trade because we're afraid they'll attack.

Yet the most disastrous attack, those that did attack, are from the country where we can't get enough, the country where we pump their economic capabilities on over-drive, where It's as much an American operation as it is a domestic one...

I guess you could interpret that either way, but it is what it is. Can't get enough of that Saudi stuff, and they hate us for it. And in return we displace our anger onto the Chinese, who are operating factories that western investments built, supplying western demand, allowing westerners to have more luxuries than ever imagined before.

I'm afraid of a country that has so little control over it's economic situation, but I also think that a cheap rifle is a good thing.

BTW when does the Norinco ban end, any month now right?

And when did they float the Yuan? I missed that, was it really recent?

 

[odysseus]

Chris Rhines...

It's nice to see that people are still willing to opine on subjects that they know nothing about.

Such as yourself in this case. Not sure where you are going with that, but you flamming up the discussion shows a weakness in your stance.

I repeat - China is a substantally freer market than many places in the United States. I would strongly suggest some reading on this subject, perhaps even a visit to China, or at least talking with some people who have been there.

And I repeat, that is way off base. I am sure you're going to bring up certain US markets like the sugar lobby and etc. etc. etc. That's not what is at topic here and I am suspicious of your inability to address the subject. Actually Chinese as a culture have always been captalistic and entrepreneurial. I have always said that Communism will be a 20th century footnote in the whole history of China.

However you must be someone who feels that if capitalism is in place there, then it must be a free-marketplace. That certainly is not true there, and not as true in the US in some cases either. Yet the Communist party still swings a lot of power and control over China's marketplace. And its society is controlled in the labor market and in the cost of labor, goods, services, and management. So it's so free to you... how about you go to a leather tanner factory or coal miners in the north and try to form a union, or workers labor party to push for higher living wages and the freedom to collectively bargain... hahahaa...

BTW - I have been to China.... and I still have family there. What's your point?