H.R. 6257 - Assault Weapon Ban Re-authorization Act of 2008

[skwab]

My response would be:

The type of weapon is irregardless. You use the phrase assault weapon because it's scary and raises eyebrows. In reality what is being used to kill kids and harm police are weapons obtained illegally. You think by banning so called assault weapons, rifles with pistol grips or any firearm with a detachable magazine, that you are going to somehow make the streets safer. The only outcome of such legislation would be to take those guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, because they are the only ones following the laws. You then put the citizenry of this nation at risk because you hamper their ability to protect themselves. You punish those who have never broken a law and who use the labled assault weapons for the various sporting purposes that most who own them use them for. You damage an industry who employ thousands of people across this country, resulting in lost jobs in retail and manufacturing. You decrease the budgets for Research and Development for weapons our Law enforcement officers and military use on a daily basis to protect themselves...and yet the bad guys still have the guns.

something to that effect.

 

[hags]

and while I agree with you why didn't that work the first time around?

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

The type of weapon is irregardless.

That sentence doesn't even make sense.

 

[benEzra]

Substitute "irrelevant" for "irregardless", I imagine.

 

[paintballdude902]

well look at the hr 1022
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1022

it is the same bill pretty much and made it to the same point then died it looks like

 

[HK G3]

There's just no need to have these "assault weapons". They're killing are kids and are used against the police.

The gangs are killing our kids, and they need to be aggressively engaged, routed, and stomped out, as they are a plague on our urban communities. Our children's lives are too precious to jeopardize by scapegoating inanimate objects to distract us from the real issue: gang-life and gang-culture, which not only tolerates, but encourages brutal violence with wanton disregard for innocent life and the law. Until we address the core issue, we are only endangering our children and law enforcement officers, and in this instance, undermining the Constitution.

How's that for a soundbite?

 

[hso]

Folks,

This is turning into a broader discussion than just the AWB bills currently in the congressional pipeline and I'm not sure what else can be said than stay vigilant for each and every one of these things slinking through the background noise, work your congresscritters as much as possible and keep people informed of the contents of these pieces of "legislation".

 

[S4gunn]

Let's not forget that irregardless isn't even a word.
-g

 

[Yo Mama]

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 - Amends the federal criminal code to reinstate, for 10 years, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act's assault weapons ban to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Specifies models and features of banned weapons.

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (1) firearms or devices lawfully possessed under federal law on the date of enactment of this Act; (2) certain firearms, replicas, or duplicates listed in an appendix as they were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (3) any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action and that has been rendered permanently inoperable or that is an antique firearm; (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and (6) firearms manufactured for, transferred to, or possessed by a federal, state, or local government agency or for law enforcement.

Requires the serial number of any weapon or device manufactured after enactment of this Act to clearly show the date of manufacture.

Directs the Attorney General to study and report to Congress on the effects of this Act on violent and drug trafficking crime.

First, why is it always ten years?

Second, looks like they will try to make this one easier to digest than hr 1022. It's grandfathering in current guns.

Third, we will be lucky to have this bill as I see it so far written, as once Obama gets into office they will be much worse than this.

Hey, stock up, and keep trained.

 

[shdwfx]

delete

 

[hags]

The gangs are killing our kids, and they need to be aggressively engaged, routed, and stomped out, as they are a plague on our urban communities. Our children's lives are too precious to jeopardize by scapegoating inanimate objects to distract us from the real issue: gang-life and gang-culture, which not only tolerates, but encourages brutal violence with wanton disregard for innocent life and the law. Until we address the core issue, we are only endangering our children and law enforcement officers, and in this instance, undermining the Constitution.

How's that for a soundbite?

There is nothing inherently illegal about belonging to a street gang, motocycle gang or any other kind of "gang". It's not a chargable offense.
So much for the "core" issue.

It's the easy access to guns, particularly assault weapons, and the gun culture that's the real culprit.
If you can save one childs life keeping assault weapons out of the hands of thugs by keeping them out of the hands of everyone then that's an even trade, especially if it's your child.
As Obama says "you don't need an AK47". I think most voters would agree.

As to the "plague on our urban communities" I don't have an urban community and think they are a plague unto themselves.

 

[Yo Mama]

There is nothing inherently illegal about belonging to a street gang, motocycle gang or any other kind of "gang". It's not a chargable offense.
So much for the "core" issue.

In AZ they just arrested 5 gang members in a high profile raid, and charged them with belonging to a crime sindicate.

 

[hags]

Ha, ha.

 

[Yo Mama]

Call these people!!

Come on, everyone needs to call! I did. I was hung up on twice.

These people need to know that everyone across the nation knows what they are up to.

 

[hags]

Call who?

 

[X9ballX]

ok so i'm geussing no more ar-15 for me what about a PS90 will i still be able to get one of those

 

[X9ballX]

i posted this on a few political websites. that should help us out.still will this mean i can get no ps90

 

[hags]

Not my county, but my state. Take a look at this. This mindset is scary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuYiacyAUDU

Now there are alot of anti-gunners in Cook County government but this takes it to a whole other level.

If people in Cook County Illinois value their 2nd amendment rights VOTE!

 

[X9ballX]

dont they know more guns less crime. god stupid people. dose this law mean no more ps90 for me???

 

[Crow1108]

As Obama says "you don't need an AK47".

Most Americans don't need to smoke. It causes polution, health-related problems due to second-hand smoke, and the occasional forrest and brush fire. But we do it anyway.

Most Americans don't need to drive a full-sized SUV. They use enough gas to fuel two or more economy cars, is heavier on the road (thus making road repair more frequent), and can be potentially fatal to someone who they get into an accident with who is driving a smaller car. But we do it anyway.

It's about the freedoms that are ours. For the most part, owning any weapons we want is a victimless enterprise. Oh sure, you hear some nut shooting up a mall, but you won't hear than a many, many more of those weapons never will kill anyone. I don't think it's anybody's business to tell me that I shouldn't have what I want to protect my family or take to the range, anymore than it is their business to tell me what to eat, what side to sleep on, how to spend my time, and what I should wear to go out with my wife.

I don't buy into the "punish the many for the actions of the few". It's not sound logic, and it stinks of a nanny mindset. If it worked, let's ban driving anything that allows anyone to mow down a crowd of pedestrians, heavily regulate the obtaining of a private pilot's license, make purchasing certain power tools open only to legitimate corporations, ban the sale of certain household cleaning compounds to anyone not possessing a license and having a psychological evaluation to see that they are mentally sound to obtain them, and completely ban people from owning certain breeds of dogs.

 

[X9ballX]

most americans who go out and kill people with these guns are usually white(sorry its sterotype) supremisists or white people who lost their job and was expecting alot of good before it all came down on him.they dont see anything to do so they kill people.

its usually whote people who do this...or white people who get put in the news for doing this

 

[X9ballX]

i'm not racist against white people its just sterotype.

so the summary is if it has a pistol grip-semi auto- detachable mag its to be outlawed

what about a single shot 50 cal?

 

[Big45]

Oh yeah, this thread is so THR 2008.

 

[Master Blaster]

most americans who go out and kill people with these guns are usually white(sorry its sterotype) supremisists or white people who lost their job and was expecting alot of good before it all came down on him.they dont see anything to do so they kill people.

its usually whote people who do this...or white people who get put in the news for doing this

You mean like John Muhammed and Lee malvo? Or the MS-13 gangbangers in miami???

I think the race of folks who commit heinous crims is immaterial, as is the tyep of weapon they use.

The thing we really need to worry about isnt a ban but a law that embodies reasonable restrictions, a loophole heller has left wide open.

Like ammo capacity regulations, or prohibitively costly licensing, or AMMO taxes./ arsenal licenses.

 

[X9ballX]

the race is immaterial its just thats whos usually assosiated with the crime. anyways will this law forbid a single shot 50 cal