Hawes .36
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Snaggletooth
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When was this gun made? That would influence my thinking on the amount of powder
DrLaw
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During the 1970's, Hawes was an importer of SAA and BP guns (Single Action Army and Black Powder guns). It should be safe with up to 18 grains of FFFG black powder or BP substitute, will probably use a .375 or .380 ball (micrometer the chambers to see what they are, and then get a ball slightly oversize - i.e. if the chamber mikes out to 370, then get the .375 ball, etc...)
As for caps, any #11 or #10 cap should probably do you well. Most good gun stores will carry them.
Look for marks on the gun that might tell us who the maker was and report back here when you find them. Generally on the barrel somewhere or under the frame beneath the cylinder.
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During the 1970's, Hawes was an importer of SAA and BP guns (Single Action Army and Black Powder guns). It should be safe with up to 18 grains of FFFG black powder or BP substitute, will probably use a .375 or .380 ball (micrometer the chambers to see what they are, and then get a ball slightly oversize - i.e. if the chamber mikes out to 370, then get the .375 ball, etc...)
As for caps, any #11 or #10 cap should probably do you well. Most good gun stores will carry them.
Look for marks on the gun that might tell us who the maker was and report back here when you find them. Generally on the barrel somewhere or under the frame beneath the cylinder.
The Doc is out now.
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A picture would help, but I think you have a replica of Colt's 1851 Navy revolver. Hawes imported good quality guns, mostly made in Germany or Italy. The Dixie Gun Works catalog should have pictures of revolvers similar to the one you have.
www.dixiegunworks.com
A picture would help, but I think you have a replica of Colt's 1851 Navy revolver. Hawes imported good quality guns, mostly made in Germany or Italy. The Dixie Gun Works catalog should have pictures of revolvers similar to the one you have.
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Start with #11's unless you have access to some to try - if they are little loose, then just pinch them and they'll work fine and you can buy #10's from then on for a proper fit without pinching.
Start with #11's unless you have access to some to try - if they are little loose, then just pinch them and they'll work fine and you can buy #10's from then on for a proper fit without pinching.
It's not an 1851 because it has the piece of metal that runs over the cylinder that didn't come till later. If I had a digital camera I'd put a picture up, but I don't. Do I realy have to check the barrel size even though it's marked .36? thanks
Mike the cylinder chambers, not the barrel
DrLaw was suggesting you measure the diameter of the cylinder chambers (not the barrel bore) to help decide what size ball to use. Black powder revolvers use round balls slightly larger than the marked barrel bore (caliber) in order to engage the rifling (single shot bp pistols and rifles use a cloth patch around the ball to achieve the same result). .36 cal revolvers all use either a .375" diameter ball or a .380" diameter ball depending on the manufacturer and type of gun. Some can use both. Unfortunately it's often not possible to determine the ball size in advance, even knowing the manufacturer, hence the suggestion to measure the cylinder chamber diameter.
You can also get a feel for whether you have the right size round by loading it into the cylinder chamber. The correct size will take some force to press home and it will shave a small ring of lead off the diameter.
DrLaw was suggesting you measure the diameter of the cylinder chambers (not the barrel bore) to help decide what size ball to use. Black powder revolvers use round balls slightly larger than the marked barrel bore (caliber) in order to engage the rifling (single shot bp pistols and rifles use a cloth patch around the ball to achieve the same result). .36 cal revolvers all use either a .375" diameter ball or a .380" diameter ball depending on the manufacturer and type of gun. Some can use both. Unfortunately it's often not possible to determine the ball size in advance, even knowing the manufacturer, hence the suggestion to measure the cylinder chamber diameter.
You can also get a feel for whether you have the right size round by loading it into the cylinder chamber. The correct size will take some force to press home and it will shave a small ring of lead off the diameter.
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Sounds like a '58 Remington copy to me. It'll shoot .380 or .375 balls. If the .375's go in without shaving a ring of lead, then use the .380's. Like the others said maike the chambers to see what the reading is.
On some Remy Clones the chambers are chamfered and they do not shave a ring with either size ball.
It is a remington if...you can lower the rammer lever and pull the winged pin out that holds the cylinder in. To get the cylinder out Half Cock the revolver, drop the rammer lever pull the pin, and roll the cylinder clockwise(from the back of the pistol) with you left hand and gently push it to the right as you roll it. To replace the cylinder, put it in with the right hand from the right, roll it clockwise again, to catch the hand and center the cylinder, push the pin in and close the lever. Done.
This is a picture of one of my original Remington's this one is a Conversion, but still looks like the C & B version.
On some Remy Clones the chambers are chamfered and they do not shave a ring with either size ball.
It is a remington if...you can lower the rammer lever and pull the winged pin out that holds the cylinder in. To get the cylinder out Half Cock the revolver, drop the rammer lever pull the pin, and roll the cylinder clockwise(from the back of the pistol) with you left hand and gently push it to the right as you roll it. To replace the cylinder, put it in with the right hand from the right, roll it clockwise again, to catch the hand and center the cylinder, push the pin in and close the lever. Done.
This is a picture of one of my original Remington's this one is a Conversion, but still looks like the C & B version.
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