Help. I want an accurate 22 LR rifle.

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I don't think this rifle has been mentioned. I have some good reports about it. Just a gussied up 10/22 with some added features. I think the synthetic stock shape is ugly but its offered in hardwood and blued thats looks nice. The synthetic stocked model shows to weigh 4.4 pounds. That should be light enough for anyone to carry.

https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/semi-automatic/t-cr22
 
Only because it hasn't been mentioned yet and the OP's talk of looking at CZ's:


People love CZ bolt action rimfires because they usually provide value. The 452's (fixed barrel) are basically gone. Discontinued years ago, there are the "Grand Finale" ones with scrollwork are out there but those are more than OP's budget. Used 452's are out there, if you can find them, but many people aren't willing to let them go. These aren't competition rifles, but they are quality sporters.

The 455 (which replaced the 452) has the ability to change barrels, but it has been value engineered. It did not attain the level of success as the 452. In comparison, the 455 typically provided modularity at the expense of a little accuracy. These are also discontinued, but only recently, and there are a lot of these still available. There are a reasonable amount of reports of buyers not being satisfied with the accuracy. A lot of this has to do with the comparison to the 452's. The 455's still had the same specs - a group size less than 1" at 50yds with CZ's test ammo. It's just that many people had 452's that would run somewhere between .4's and .6's center to center with ammo that the gun liked.

The 457 is the new offering. They redesigned the receiver, changed the safety, but kept the same modularity, with 455 barrels fitting 457's. The only confusing thing is that there are a few factory models that are accurized. So when someone says, "My 457 MTR and Precision Trainer shoots bughole groups at......yards with..... ammo" - that isn't the typical 457 rifle. It's a 457 that costs almost double (or more) of what the typical 457 American costs. Just be aware of the 457 model when reading/comparing accuracy reports.

Finally, the CZ rimfire that nobody talks about is the CZ 512. Semi auto, aluminum receiver, usually stiff trigger. But, good accuracy and semi-auto functionality. It will not win a bench rest competition, but I think it is a better hunting gun than the CZ bolt actions.

All this comes with the caveat that these are mass produced rifles, so production quality does vary. A person can hedge their bet with paying more for an accurized model, and get better performance, however, the "consistently inconsistent" nature of 22LR ammo also applies.
 
Ive heard 455s can be tweaked to give good accuracy. Mines at or just under .5" at 25 yds......which should be an inch or less at 50 and has not been shot much...or tweaked at all. That is w match ammo. The test target supplied w rifle showed sub 1" at 50. But was a computer deal. Not an actual target. How honest?
 
marlin model 60 with scope is wonderful I just got one last Friday love it!

On rimfirecentral I have seen some great groups posted that were shot at 100 yards with those guns. I don't think they weigh much over 5 pounds. I like to shoot mine as a straight pull bolt action by shooting CCI CB22 rounds. I like the CB longs. The case is the same length as a 22lr so you don't get the fouling ring in the chamber like you do when you use shorts. Just never use the Colibri powderless 22s in a rifle barrel. You WILL stick one in the bore sooner or later.
 
I started my suggestions with your existing 10/22 and a Feddersen barrel and, if you’re not planning on selling it to fund a bolt action 452 then I stand by that as a good option in an accurate, light, hunting rifle. The tapered barrel will come in at or just below OEM weight and for funsies no one will realize the stellar accuracy isn’t coming from a basic Ruger Carbine.

Honestly it’s a toss up; I’d wager slightly better accuracy from the rebarreled 10/22 compared to a CZ, but the 452 is a near heirloom quality rifle that will likely appreciate in value. The downside is a longer barrel and limited scope ring options (dovetailed receiver).
 
Might look at a DIP rail for a grooved receiver. Allows reg weaver type rings. 7/8 rings seem to work on 11mm dovetails...if the clamp is done at 30 in lbs. Im running alloy Burris .22 rings on my cz. Had them on Anschutz before. Slid at 20 in lbs. Not at 30.
 
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Talley medium vertical splits with a VX-2, rear tangent removed for clearance. Needed a Cheek Eez pad for alignment though. Mine is the Trainer model, I would highly recommend the American if you plan to scope it. My 25N has a DIP rail but it would ruin the aesthetics of a CZ.


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As forty_caliber referenced early in this thread, the V-block barrel retainer made a HUGE difference in my Ruger's accuracy. I also removed the barrel band to free float the barrel and replaced the stock trigger with Rugers BX drop in. Those three modifications significantly improved my shooting, all for a cost of about $90.
 
And what kind of championship?
Shooting steel plates or IHMSA type silhouettes or BR50?

The CZ 455 sporter is an adult sized .22 rifle. It isn't light and it isn't heavy. It just feels good.
Trigger bone stock aint great but is usable.
Mine is new enough I can't say how good a shooter it is.

My GM barrelled 10/22 is tighter at 50 w match ammo than my CZ at 25. But it's had 300 rounds through it and the CZ has had 1/3 of that.

Like I said before, I currently have three .22 rifles (and have owned several others).
None is perfect.

Happy as a a lark w my GM heavy taper 10/22's accuracy. But it came out heavier than I wanted, and the stock's grip is too vertical.
My CZ might be a keeper, might not. Dunno yet.
Best feeling rig is my 10/22 sporter (fingergroove) and it shoots like crap.
Do I drop another 130 bucks into a GM sporter bbl and do a bedding job on it?

More time, money and effort,.....into a rig w a wood stock that's gonna get dinged up.

At least w the CZ455 I have the option to say screw it and swap the bbl to .22 magnum.
 
And yeah, it appears more and more that to get a good looking top end shooter............an Anschutz for 1500-2000 new is about the way to go.
 
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I started my suggestions with your existing 10/22 and a Feddersen barrel and, if you’re not planning on selling it to fund a bolt action 452 then I stand by that as a good option in an accurate, light, hunting rifle. The tapered barrel will come in at or just below OEM weight and for funsies no one will realize the stellar accuracy isn’t coming from a basic Ruger Carbine.

Honestly it’s a toss up; I’d wager slightly better accuracy from the rebarreled 10/22 compared to a CZ, but the 452 is a near heirloom quality rifle that will likely appreciate in value. The downside is a longer barrel and limited scope ring options (dovetailed receiver).

Not sure I am following, are you saying a 1022 with a better barrel will have "slightly better accuracy" then the CZ?

If so well yea I guess it COULD happen, but I would not make book on it.

The thing with used guns is you really don't know what you have till you start running lead through it. It is pretty hard to screw up a bolt rim fire, but given the state of people anything is possible. How the guy was taken care of....or better said abused I think will come into it.

This is something I get on my high horse on over in surplus land....you can't take ONE surplus this and ONE surplus that and say well this is a better design.....nope that ONE is better....who knows what they have been through. Same with rim fires.....I have seen people make a 100 round 1022 magazine go away inside of a minute.....that is not good on metal.

Now I am pretty mean to my rimfire guns in general....I don't really clean them till the really do not run, or get gooked up......or like this coming week it is going to rain for 7 days straight and I am off for the next 7 *&^*&%)# days.

Then you get people that just don't know what is good and what is bad for a gun....I remember in the old days when 8mm was like 54R of not long ago.....and you could get a mauser of some kind for really cheap. It was not long after my first surgery so I could not shoot just sit there and BS and watch the lead fly. There was a guy that cut down a really good sized tree with 8mm.....he would dunk the rifle in water from time to time and just keep shooting....me sitting there half stoned from pain killers just amazed at the steam.

Then you get the bottom of the entire group of people......those are the just flat uninformed and think things that are so flat out wrong and have it burned into their brain like a brand that they will keep with the misinformation over and over again.....these are people that think the 1022 are a good rifle :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::)

Ok that last one was for fun....but the rest is about right.
 
Talked to a bud w some nice stuff.
He said he got a Savage heavy bbl, threaded for suppressor.....and has been thrilled.
Without going higher end, that's his choice.

Have another bud w one. He likes it too.

While the CZ 455 is no beauty queen, she looks way better to me than the Savage.
Debate is on how good a cook the CZ is.
 
There's a thread that ended just a few weeks ago where some of our members submitted NRA targets with 10-rounds from their favorite 22 rifles. If you look it up you'll see what can be expected from nearly any 22 rifle at 25 & 50 yards. You will not see any one-ragged-hole groups from the offhand position.

Replies to you from those that comment on the significance of rifle accuracy when shooting from offhand are correct. Any decent rifle will shoot better than the average shooter from the offhand position & if hunting is your game you wont be shooting from a comfortable rest most of the time. For hunting purposes any good quality unmodified 22 rifle from Ruger, Marlin, etc. will be fine.
 
This 10/22 was decent. .75" at 50 yards w CCI Blazer.
It felt good and was a looker too.
Plus you could hose 10 rounds out of it like a banshee...........sit down and plunk the next 5 into that .75" at 50 yards.
And what was it?
Prev owner shot it a lot, it was well worn (broken in) after 40 freakin years (orig barrel).

Which makes me wonder, if some 1022 barre;s just get a better crown or chamber, or if the old sporters got better headpsaced bolts.
I got one 4 yrs newer now and it's a turd.
Will shoot this weekend, and pop the bbl off, have another 40 yr old well shot bbl to swap in and see it that changes things.
Cost me about 100 to have an orig set back and recrowned.
Might do it. GM for 120 and no wait time sounds like a better idea.

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Offhand, around 35 yards. Hit where I aimed. As usual. Have pretty much taken all my squirrels offhand over the years. Not trying to be a purist or anything, just the way I've always done it. Offers some sport, but not that much. At 4X it should be a pop and flop out to 50 yards.
 
I've shot quite a few .22 rifles over the years, and IMHO a bone stock 10/22 is probably nothing more than a plinker.
There might be some really good ones, but chances are it's a rare occurrence.

Hammer swap might help some. Bbl and or stock work can improve them too.
It can be a decent rifle w minor and easy to do mods.
One need not blow a ton of money to get something usable.

Tell ya one rifle I'd like to try...........tube fed Rem bolt 582.
Walnut...............they just look nice.
Had a 581 and 541 T HB.
Best stock hunting rig I ever had was my Anschutz 141.
Using the 50 ft indoor .22 target it'd run 98 or 99 at 25 yards w WW Super X.
Not even on a decent bench.

Did not like that trigger take up though.
Pretty rifle that shot great. Got it for a good price. After a couple yrs sold it for decent profit.
Of course that means to get another I gotta pay way more now :LOL.

I can tweak my CZ and see how it responds.
 
Just because a shooter may not be able to use the accuracy in their rig on every shot, that doesn't mean that they can't use it to full potential on occasion.
The better shooters just use it more often.

You will not become a better shooter running mediocre stuff.
 
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