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  1. JACK STEELE

    JACK STEELE Member

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    ANY BODY KNOW WHAT THIS IS?:confused: DSC00736.jpg
     
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  2. Chawbaccer

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    What does the barrel say? What with the glossy finish and lack of wear I would think it is a modern made replica of a Hawken, looks like a Lyman ST Loo Hawken by the cap box and the dual wedges but the trigger guard doesn't match up.
     
  3. StrawHat

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    It has the look of the CVA Mountain Rifle.
     
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    I'm agreeing with Strawhat.
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  5. JACK STEELE

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    THE BARREL HAS SUPPOSEDLY BEEN STRIPPED AND BROWNED, HOWEVER THE ONLY MARKINGS ON IT ARE THE CALIBER DESIGNATION OF .54 CAL.
    I WAS TOLD BY THE SELLER THAT IT WAS AN EUROARMS GREAT PLAINS RIFLE,AND ANOTHER FELLA SAID IT LOOKED LIKE A CVA MOUNTAIN GUN.I HAVE SHOT IT AND IT SHOOTS LIKE NEW AND IS VERY ACCURATE.:) HERE IS ANOTHER PIC. DSC00735.jpg
     
  6. Chawbaccer

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    CVA proabably imported it from Euroarms. Looks like a nice gun, is the metal steel or something else?
     
  7. gizamo

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    Might be Deer Creek.

    They are now Wilderness Rifle Works. They shoot exceptionally well because the barrels are made in the USA by the company. They bought out the Hatfield Co's old Douglas Co's barrel making equipment.

    Giz
     
  8. sundance44s

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    I`m thinking Deer Creek also ...they are makeing barrels ...with no markings ..I`ve talked to them about a barrel for a Mowrey rifle I own ...
    Never seen a EuroArms that wasn`t marked .
     
  9. JACK STEELE

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    The metal is steel
     
  10. arcticap

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    This is the description of the CVA Mountain Rifle from the 1980 Gun Digest. The oldest ones had a Douglas barrel made in the U.S.. If something doesn't match the description exactly then maybe it's because of the production date. It was sold as a kit and as a finished rifle.

    Caliber: .45, .50, .54, .58
    Barrel: 32" octagon, 15/16" across flats
    Weight: 8 lbs. Length: 48" over-all
    Stock: American Maple with cheekpiece
    Sights: German silver blade front, screw-adj. rear for e., dovetail.
    Features: Available in percussion or flintlock. engraved lock with adjustable sear engagement, hooked breech with 2 barrel tennons, rifled 1 in 66", double set triggers, German silver patchbox, tennon plates, pewter-type nose cap, browned iron furniture.
     
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  11. Coyote Hunter

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    It's a CVA Mountain Rifle. Got one exactly like that except in .45. It is a good, accurate rifle. I only wish I had a Percussion lock for mine, I'd deer hunt with it more. Just too damp here for good flintlock hunting.
     
  12. frontiergander

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    Its a deercreek northwest rifle. Dead give away is that its only stamped with .54cal onto the barrel. They are basically the cva mountain rifle but have a Douglas barrel mounted on them. Excellent shooters!

    If it were a cva mountain rifle it would be marked with the logos and if it were the old model, it would have all the markings of cva and be stamped- MADE IN USA.

    Deercreek bought the Douglas rifling machine and now their barrels are done on the machine.

    Going to sell or shoot it?
     
  13. arcticap

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    Does the rifle pictured have a hooked breech as listed in the description of the CVA Mountain Rifle?
    I can't see it well enough but the one pictured looks like it only has a tang.
    Does everyone's CVA Mountain Rifle have a hooked breech?
     
  14. frontiergander

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    yeah the mountain rifles have hooked breech. Another give away is the patch box, The cva mountain rifles in 54 and 58cal were called the big bore mountain rifles and did not come with a patch box.

    15/16 or 1" across the flats?
     
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    This is the breech of a Douglas slow twist barrel that's on an old Dixie .45 Plainsman that I have. It's a pin design instead of a hook, and it also has a larger drum. The pin is a little more difficult to fit back into the tang than a hooked breech, but it's more convenient than having to remove a tang screw.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4710964&postcount=5

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    I will have to do some investigating, many thanks to all for the info and questions.in response to frontier gander i will be shooting it again as soon as i heal from a torn rotor cuff.
     
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    ok here is an update on the rifle in question, the barrel measures 15/16 accross the flats and it has a hooked breach.against the doctor wishes i shot it last week at 100 yrds and was holding 4 inch groups with no trouble until the shoulder gave out. my thanks to all who responded . im quite sure based on all the info recieved here that it is indeed a cva mountain rifle with a douglass barrel or the aforementioned deercreek northwest rifle.:)
     
  18. scrat

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    Wow that sure is a nice muzzle loader
     
  19. arcticap

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    Great shooting. :)
     
  20. jordan1948

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    Looks like a Hawkens or a replica of one.
     
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