Help me diagnose an issue

[TTv2]

Picked up the snub 9mm Taurus, checked it out before completing transfer, all was fine. Get to range load ammo directly into chambers without using moon clip, single action to get an idea where to hold on target, no problem.

Next cylinder I do double action and the last two rounds the trigger stops during the pull, cylinder too. I let off the trigger, cock hammer, no issue. Repeat and same thing on next cylinder.

Try moon clips, issue goes away for next cylinder.

Switch to different ammo, no moon clips, I think the first cylinder went fine, next one had issue on last round. Used moon clips for the different ammo no issue until I got to the last round and the trigger started to want to hang up, but it didn't do a hard stop.

So, what I know is some ammo will work better than others without the moon clips being used, the moon clips seem to improve performance, but not make it 100% perfect, and the issue is absolutely not present during dry firing.

I'm thinking that the unfired cartridges may be backing out and rubbing against the recoil shield without the moon clip being used, but even when the moon clip is used the issue can still occur, but less frequently.

If there was an issue internally I would think it would be present during dry firing, but it's not and the issue doesn't occur when cocking the hammer.

One solution I'm considering is aftermarket clips as these Taurus ones are really thin. Some thicker and stiffer ones may hold everything in place better.

Thoughts? Should I give it more time to break in? Give it a good cleaning and try different ammo?

Would be appreciated if the Taurus haters kept out of the discussion.

 

[burrhead]

If it’s new, call Taurus. If not, I’d put Dyekm or marks-a-lot on the recoil shield and shoot until it malfus. See if the shield is flat and square with the cylinder. If that looks good the problem is internal, maybe ammo. I’m more familiar with Smiths, but I bet there’s a youtube.

 

[243winxb]

the unfired cartridges may be backing out and rubbing against the recoil shield

Fired brass may do it also. As the cylinder rotates, the rounds/ brass need pushed back into the chamber.

Had it happen with a S&W M28, 357 mag. Very dirty chambers seemed to be my problem. Not a common problem.

 

[TTv2]

Fired brass may do it also. As the cylinder rotates, the rounds/ brass need pushed back into the chamber.

Had it happen with a S&W M28, 357 mag. Very dirty chambers seemed to be my problem. Not a common problem.

Ok, I had a suspicion being dirty could be the issue. I didn't clean the chambers or any part of the revolver before shooting and given the carbon on the front of the cylinder it had been test fired at the factory who knows how long ago.

I'll clean it good and try again.

 

[film495]

I got a Taurus recently and doing research this sounds like one of the common problems. I didn't really have this issue, well - kind of, but I just took the cylinder apart and cleaned and lubed it good, kind of a hassle, but also - just spin the cylinder empty, it should not make clicking noises or bind at all if you spin it fast. I think there is also a possilbe internal issue, that I'm not going to fix if it happens to me, but point being, it should not do that, and it should work iwth any proper ammo. Trick is, figuring out why and where it binds. Mark the cylinder with a piece of tape and see if it does it on the same cylinder. Move the cylinder, and try it again. Track it to the clinder being consistent, then it is probably internal and I'd send it back for warranty repair. It could also just be the spring in the cylinder being gummed up if things in there aren't spinning correctly, I thing the end of the spring can catch, IMHO there should be a bushing, but my new one didn't have one, but cleaning it worked. I was a little annoyed that I had to do that to make it work new, but whatever. It works and it was a bundle less than the competing models. And it came with spare grip options and well overall I'm pleased.

 

[TTv2]

I got a Taurus recently and doing research this sounds like one of the common problems. I didn't really have this issue, well - kind of, but I just took the cylinder apart and cleaned and lubed it good, kind of a hassle, but also - just spin the cylinder empty, it should not make clicking noises or bind at all if you spin it fast. I think there is also a possilbe internal issue, that I'm not going to fix if it happens to me, but point being, it should not do that, and it should work iwth any proper ammo. Trick is, figuring out why and where it binds. Mark the cylinder with a piece of tape and see if it does it on the same cylinder. Move the cylinder, and try it again. Track it to the clinder being consistent, then it is probably internal and I'd send it back for warranty repair. It could also just be the spring in the cylinder being gummed up if things in there aren't spinning correctly, I thing the end of the spring can catch, IMHO there should be a bushing, but my new one didn't have one, but cleaning it worked. I was a little annoyed that I had to do that to make it work new, but whatever. It works and it was a bundle less than the competing models. And it came with spare grip options and well overall I'm pleased.

I did keep track of the chambers to see if it was repeating on one or two consistently, but it was random, so it's not any specific chamber or index point that does it.

 

[film495]

I did keep track of the chambers to see if it was repeating on one or two consistently, but it was random, so it's not any specific chamber or index point that does it.

It isn't that crazy to pop the cylinder off and clean the parts and oil them. Mine was binding once in a while new, and made like kind of a clicking sound when I spun the cylinder with it released and it was not really free spinning, you could tell something was off. Cleaning it did clear it up. It had to be one of the springs, there's not much in there else that can bind. If it was that I think you could notice just release the cylinder and it should be pretty free spinning and not make weird clicking noises like a gear with teeth. It just spins on a bushing and should be smooth and not make much noise.

oh, on another revolver it was binding up at the range one day. I had shot it many times before. I put a ding in the side edge of the recoil shield and the cartridges would bind on it, sometimes, inconsistently, and only on some brand cases, not all. It was a real bugger to figure out.

 

[Styx]

Clean it and put it back together to see if that fixes the issue. If not, send it to Taurus and hope they fix it. Good luck.

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Most of the negative things you'll see said about the brand is from years, if not decades ago. Taurus has improved since then.

 

[OS/N]

Suggest to always remove factory or prior lubricants before the first use of any firearm (action, receiver, and bore). While doing that always inspect for burs or drag points of the working/moving parts and correct or return if need be. It doesn't require a complete take down usually. If nothing else it will provide an opportunity for the user to get familar with it and make the first use a much safer and better experiance. Always check all screws and pins before and after the first use as well.

Also - if the handgun came with moon clips it may not be machined to headspace off the case mouths. Verify by sight and ammo fit that it has an edge in the chambers - if not you should always use moon clips with it. The 9 is a tapered case but all ammo is not the same size and shape - close and within specs but not exactly the same. Moon clips regulate and keep the primers at the proper place in relation to the fireing pin.

If it has an edge in the chamber to headspace off of and you load your own ammo make sure your reloads have a mouth diameter of .380 (379-380 anyway). This will promote better function and accuracy and is overlooked by many reloaders because it is not explained very well in the manuals - most just look for a good case mouth edge and bullet tightness and don't measure the mouth diameter after taper crimping. Ending up with a correct mounth diameter starts with correct brass thickness, a proper bullet diameter, the correct setting of the sizing die, and finally the adjustment of the crimp die.

 

[Tallball]

My Taurus 9mm snub doesn't have that problem, but when I put the 9mm cylinder in my Blackhawk it can happen.

For me it's the ammo. If a case is a little out of spec, it can jam up the cylinder.

 

[contender]

Does it hang if you dry fire a few hundred times?

 

[TTv2]

Does it hang if you dry fire a few hundred times?

I haven't tried dry firing it that much, but it hasn't had even a hint of it when I do dry fire it.