Help on a Model 12

[Gato Montés]

My friend just recently bought a used model 12 off the used rack at a Gander Mountain. We looked it over and everything seemed alright, minus a few dings here and there. What was comforting though was the year warranty on the gun from Gander.

So we go and shoot it. First thing we noticed was the rounds would not stay in the magazine. If you did not place it in the mag just so, the magazine would dump not only that round, but every round in the mag tube. OK, a worn part, should be easily replaced. At about 100 rounds another problem emerged where the forend could not be pumped without placing a bit of forward force on it first. Both problems remained even after a proper break down and cleaning (and yes, it was cleaned prior to shooting as well.)

Here's the kicker. He took it back to GM to have the smith fix or replace the parts that were causing the issues and what do ya know, he doesn't know how to fix it, or was at least unwilling to do so. So now my friend has a semi working model 12 pump that he doesn't know what to do with. I offered my assistance, but know diddly squat about M12's to be of any use.

Do these seem like simple fixes, or should he just ask for a refund for the purchase?

Oh, and BTW, Gander Mountain SUCKS!

 

[chas08]

Is it dumping the magazine when you load it or when you pump it? And, are you holding a lot of rearward pressure on the pump when firing? Because a model 12 pump arm has to move forward a little to unlock the action. Recoil usually takes care of this unless you are strongarming the pump. It is very noticeable when dry firing. The carrier and the Magazine shell stop are the same item on a model 12 you have to develope your own knack for loading the mag tube or the previously loaded shell/shells will shoot right out of the tube. This can be considered normal.

 

[Gato Montés]

HA! See, I told you I know diddly squat about model 12's.

So everything I just described as a problem is normal function? I feel like a boob.:banghead:

Thanks chas

EDIT: I still hate GM...

 

[chas08]

Glad to help. I own two model 12's. A 12ga & 16ga. I like them a lot, especially the 16. I don't have a very high opinion of GM or their 19 year old "Gunsmiths" either. The other question I get quite often is; Is it normal to see so much of the shell brass sticking out of the mag tube? the answer to that one is also yes.

 

[bushmaster1313]

I had the same issue when I bought my Model 12.
I thought is was busted because the round stuck out of the magazine.

 

[Tom Held]

Defective

Tell your friend that the Model 12 probalby has some very serious defects that would be expensive to repair and that I would be glad to take it off his hands and give him couple of hundred dollars for that old piece of junk.

Tom

 

[augustino]

Hey I'll second that emotion!
If he wants to get rid of that old "BOAT ANCHOR" let me know with a PM and I'll gladly take it off his hands. I have a model 12 (that I LOVE!) 12 gauge and having a "parts" gun would be excellent!!
THANKS!!