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https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...2020-is-there-a-problem-with-the-colt-python/
The most recent info on the topic at hand. From SHOT this morning.

Just don't try to insult my, or anyone else's intelligence with your constant, head in the sand attitude, acting like Kevin Bacon in, "Animal House" telling everyone all is well. The FACT is this gun has a LOT of problems.
Quit repeating yourself and provide credible documentation, links, anything ...
The only insults to anyone's intelligence are your constant repetition of comments such as
There are already several people who have all experienced the same thing. Dealers have reported they are so poorly put together, they can't even get the cylinders open on the damn things when they take it out of the box. Many have reported banged up muzzle crowns caused by a polishing process
while providing ZERO documentation. Now, this morning, the Colt rep said they've had a couple Pythons returned for "cosmetic" issues. Is he lying? Where are all the other reports -- with photos or video -- substantiating the problems you keep insisting are rampant? Please, and not the two photos YouTube guy "GoldenWebb" posted of the "marred" barrel crown.


 
The failure to cycle is likely a failure of the trigger to fully set. The cylinder will fail to rotate.

I have seen some individuals short stroke the trigger (or cock it while riding the trigger) and move the trigger back and forth and claim that it's a fault.

I believe some legitimate problems exist, some incompetent testers exist and I suspect some outright fraud exist due to the fact Colt won't pay reviewers for positive reviews.

I have no horse in this fight as I have no plans to buy it. I decided to stick with my DW 15-2 instead of a Python decades ago.

As to the cylinder that won't open. I haven't seen that yet but anything is possible.

For the guys who are considering buying one I hope Colt gets any initial problems sorted out and you have the opportunity to buy a fine revolver.

PS My comments on basic function are aimed at the "buy a Glock" crowd not those of you who have a basic understanding of revolver mechanics.
 
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https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...2020-is-there-a-problem-with-the-colt-python/
The most recent info on the topic at hand. From SHOT this morning.


Quit repeating yourself and provide credible documentation, links, anything ...
The only insults to anyone's intelligence are your constant repetition of comments such as

while providing ZERO documentation. Now, this morning, the Colt rep said they've had a couple Pythons returned for "cosmetic" issues. Is he lying? Where are all the other reports -- with photos or video -- substantiating the problems you keep insisting are rampant? Please, and not the two photos YouTube guy "GoldenWebb" posted of the "marred" barrel crown.

Well here is another one I already posted in my last post:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/possible-new-colt-pythons.860636/page-16
 
Dear Customers,

We are very sorry that the shipment of Python Revolvers that you received was defective. We understand your disappointment and appreciate the inconvenience this must have caused you.

There is no question that the product we shipped did not meet the very high standards our customers have come to expect and should continue to demand and receive without a doubt.
In our effort to improve the overall quality of our products, we have found the root cause that damaged the crown and immediately fixed this issue.
We have since implemented strict Quality inspections to the production standards and can assure you that we are in the process of completing more thorough manufacturing and inspection. We can provide a reason for this issue and the solution if you deem necessary.
I can promise you that the highest quality standards will be met in the future because protecting our reputation for delivering the best product on the market is a key priority for us. Again, I apologize for our mistake and regret any inconvenience caused as a result.
We look forward to continuing the mutually beneficial relationship with our Customers.
Sincerely,

Colt Firearms MFG.

After manufacturing and quality control of each revolver the revolver (Frame, Barrel, Cylinder, Side plate cover, Crane/Yolk) goes through a polishing process. The polishing process requires the revolver to be fixtured on the barrel. Therefore, a change has been made to no longer hold by the barrel during polishing and completely removing any chance of damage to the crown and the crown recess. The quality department did in fact miss this issue, but has corrected it and thoroughly looking at ALL areas of the revolver. It is in fact a simple fix; we use a crowning tool that cleans the crown. We appreciate all of the feedback from our customers; we can also answer any of your questions.
Thank you.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant...thon-already-has-a-couple-of-issues/87994719/

So.... They, (Colt) admit they shipped defective guns and apologized for it.... An entire shipment.. Not 3 or 4 guns. So yes, either that rep is lying, or whoever wrote that letter is. Since they shipped these defective guns, they NOW say they have implemented, "strict quality inspections". Why didn't they from the beginning? NOW they assure us they are, "in the process" of completing, "a more thorough manufacturing and inspection". After they made how many guns without one? They're well into 4 digit serial numbers as we speak. Your Colt boy in the video confirmed this.

They also admit to employing a polishing procedure that damaged the muzzle crowns on many guns. And only after these guns came back, did they finally implement the change in manufacturing to stop it. Those guns NEVER should have made it out the door.

This is an internal manufacturing and quality inspection problem at Colt, that involves many guns. Stop trying to convince me or anyone else otherwise. If you want to play Colt fanboy, do it elsewhere. This information is out there. Read it. I'm not making this stuff up, and neither is anyone else. And don't come back here whining about the source because you don't like it. Or don't want to believe it because it's telling you what you don't want to hear.

I don't give a damn what you think or believe either way on this entire matter. Just don't try to pi$$ on my head, and tell me it's raining. These guns have issues. Colt admits it. If you don't believe it, then stay ignorant about it. Or better still, run out and buy one.
 
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Nice to see a company admit a issue early and try to fix it early. I bet the pythons from this point on will be exceptional. Thanks for complaining to them Bill and getting these early mistakes fixed. The Colt crowd will give you many Thanksgiving!
 
Dear Customers,

We are very sorry that the shipment of Python Revolvers that you received was defective. We understand your disappointment and appreciate the inconvenience this must have caused you.

There is no question that the product we shipped did not meet the very high standards our customers have come to expect and should continue to demand and receive without a doubt.
In our effort to improve the overall quality of our products, we have found the root cause that damaged the crown and immediately fixed this issue.
We have since implemented strict Quality inspections to the production standards and can assure you that we are in the process of completing more thorough manufacturing and inspection. We can provide a reason for this issue and the solution if you deem necessary.
I can promise you that the highest quality standards will be met in the future because protecting our reputation for delivering the best product on the market is a key priority for us. Again, I apologize for our mistake and regret any inconvenience caused as a result.
We look forward to continuing the mutually beneficial relationship with our Customers.
Sincerely,

Colt Firearms MFG.

After manufacturing and quality control of each revolver the revolver (Frame, Barrel, Cylinder, Side plate cover, Crane/Yolk) goes through a polishing process. The polishing process requires the revolver to be fixtured on the barrel. Therefore, a change has been made to no longer hold by the barrel during polishing and completely removing any chance of damage to the crown and the crown recess. The quality department did in fact miss this issue, but has corrected it and thoroughly looking at ALL areas of the revolver. It is in fact a simple fix; we use a crowning tool that cleans the crown. We appreciate all of the feedback from our customers; we can also answer any of your questions.
Thank you.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant...thon-already-has-a-couple-of-issues/87994719/

So.... They, (Colt) admit they shipped defective guns and apologized for it.... An entire shipment.. Not 3 or 4 guns. So yes, either that rep is lying, or whoever wrote that letter is. Since they shipped these defective guns, they NOW say they have implemented, "strict quality inspections". Why didn't they from the beginning? NOW they assure us they are, "in the process" of completing, "a more thorough manufacturing and inspection". After they made how many guns without one? They're well into 4 digit serial numbers as we speak. Your Colt boy in the video confirmed this.

They also admit to employing a polishing procedure that damaged the muzzle crowns on many guns. And only after these guns came back, did they finally implement the change in manufacturing to stop it. Those guns NEVER should have made it out the door.

This is an internal manufacturing and quality inspection problem at Colt, that involves many guns. Stop trying to convince me or anyone else otherwise. If you want to play Colt fanboy, do it elsewhere. This information is out there. Read it. I'm not making this stuff up, and neither is anyone else. And don't come back here whining about the source because you don't like it. Or don't want to believe it because it's telling you what you don't want to hear.

I don't give a damn what you think or believe either way on this entire matter. Just don't try to pi$$ on my head, and tell me it's raining. These guns have issues. Colt admits it. If you don't believe it, then stay ignorant about it. Or better still, run out and buy one.

...and this is a problem how? You had rather they act like the other major manufacturers that usually do three things when a process fault is discovered? (deny, deny deny). The ones I have seen didn't have muzzle scratches. Don't know about function because no people that have bought them locally do anything but store them in their safe.

PS I have not bought a new Colt in 30 years so I don't consider myself a Fanboy. We just don't see why you hold Colt to such a higher standard than someone like Glock which has had new gun issues (22-4 comes to mind) as well.
 
As soon as I find one in a store that I can look at and isn't priced above MSRP, I am buying it.

Despite my misgivings I am likely doing the same with the first 4.25” Python I encounter 6-7 months from now that isn’t clearly defective, or grossly over priced.

Even though I’m disappointed that others have had issues with their “launch edition” guns, I will take a chance because at the end of the day I want Colt to be successful and I want the new Python to be successful. If we all shun Colt for having some problems out of the gate then Colt will once again turn their back on the civilian market and high end DA revolvers. They’re trying, and that should count for something despite my kvetching.

So I will put my money where my mouth is, and actually buy one. If it’s a lemon I’ll send it in for service and report on that too. Otherwise I will make an effort to burn 500 rounds of full power .357 my first range outing shooting nothing but DA, and see how it goes.
 
Lots of angry in this thread--way too much IMO. Rather than to try to sort it all out or wait to see just how bad it will get if left alone, I'm going to stick a fork in it.
 
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