Herter's smokeless powder

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Has anyone heard of this powder? I have 2 unopened cans of 100 and 2 cans 101. it all says it was made in Scotland. 14814086649401970446876.jpg
 
Whoa. How old are those? Herter's has been gone a while, though I think Cabela's bought or licensed the name for some house-brand ammunition.

The arrival of the new Herter's catalogue each year was always a high point in my childhood. I spent hours going through them.
 
Whoa. How old are those? Herter's has been gone a while, though I think Cabela's bought or licensed the name for some house-brand ammunition.

The arrival of the new Herter's catalogue each year was always a high point in my childhood. I spent hours going through them.
 
I am not sure how old. I checked for a date code, but no luck on the front there are stickers that have A15583, A15555 on the 100 and A19757, A19774 I n the 101. I searched for any reference on Google -no results.
 
I have a few pounds of Herters 164. There is no data or cross reference. Some guys can design wildcats and use any unknown powder. I would not hand an unknown powder to my kids. I did give some Herters 164, a press, bullets, primers, and dies to a guy who had never reloaded before. He and I developed a jet engine starter together, and I knew he could understand everything I say and could do experiments.
 
Could I mention? I knew the Herter Family. "Jack" Herter the young man always featured in the Herter's catalog? He became a Doctor of Psychiatry in Casper. Wyoming. I met his father Col. Herter as well. The photographs in the catalog were often made on the Ferris Ranch South of Independence Rock.
Col. Herter and Gen. Patton looked at forming a mobile ammunition reloading plant to follow the troops. Col Herter educated himself on powder, primers bullets etc. After the War it was the Powder from Scotland etc that he built the Herter Company.
 
Could I mention? I knew the Herter Family. "Jack" Herter the young man always featured in the Herter's catalog? He became a Doctor of Psychiatry in Casper. Wyoming. I met his father Col. Herter as well. The photographs in the catalog were often made on the Ferris Ranch South of Independence Rock.
Col. Herter and Gen. Patton looked at forming a mobile ammunition reloading plant to follow the troops. Col Herter educated himself on powder, primers bullets etc. After the War it was the Powder from Scotland etc that he built the Herter Company.

Pretty cool and thanks for sharing that story. :)
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Could I mention? I knew the Herter Family. "Jack" Herter the young man always featured in the Herter's catalog? He became a Doctor of Psychiatry in Casper. Wyoming. I met his father Col. Herter as well. The photographs in the catalog were often made on the Ferris Ranch South of Independence Rock.
Col. Herter and Gen. Patton looked at forming a mobile ammunition reloading plant to follow the troops. Col Herter educated himself on powder, primers bullets etc. After the War it was the Powder from Scotland etc that he built the Herter Company.
This is very interesting, what do you know about the bullets and gunstocks they sold?
 
Off Hand, I really don't know about those items. They had everything imported from European sources. I used their bullets back in the days. The stocks required a great deal of work to fit. It seems that their "Wasp Waist" Bullets came from Belgium?:)
 
The arrival of the new Herter's catalogue each year was always a high point in my childhood. I spent hours going through them.
Oh, yeah. I can recall doing the same thing.

I still have a 1973 Herters catalog (No.83) and paging thru it takes me back to the idle, pleasant hours that I whiled away paging thru like catalogs in the late '60s. :)
 
I well remember as a 21 year old pouring over the Herter's catalog. A gentleman 66 years old taught me the fine art of reloading. And it is an art as much as a science. I wound up with all Herter's equipment. I found it to be some really good stuff. I had access to very high end balance beam scales and the scale was as good as you could read it. My mentor suggested Herter's round nose 170 grain 30 caliber bullets loaded as close to 3000 fps as one could get. It was a Michigan deer load. I used Herter's components and powder. The bullets did not vary one tenth of a grain from each other. The powder was HOT and when I settled on my pet load it was those bullets in a 308 Win loaded over 42 grains of 102 with Herter's primers. Those loads gave 5 shot 3/4 inch groups measured the old fashioned way. A circle that would cover all the holes. None of this silly center to center stuff. I would give my left testicle to have that Herters stuff again. Especially the bullets and powder. The load performed as my mentor said it would. Hit a deer and the bullet did not exit. It was a 30-30 design so at the proper speed it went in but did not come out. Hydraulic shock would liquify the guts so field dressing was simply a chest to anus cut of the belly. Pour out whatever was inside. I sold all that reloading stuff when the Michigan woods became totally unsafe for gun hunting. I shot some deer with a Shakespeare Kaibob and self fletched arrows. Then family life and work took over much of my spare time. Now that I am retired I have resumed loading and shooting. I travel full time and my home is where ever I park it. So my reloading "bench" is usually a picnic table. Some of the modern things I really like are the Ultrasonic cleaner, the vibratory cleaner and the RCBS Chargemaster. I had to really research to find an adequate press. I knew the normal O presses and C presses were just not built for full length resizing of larger cartridges. The RCBS Summit press is exactly what I needed. No deflection and reasonable amount of foot pounds required to cycle during forming. The real bonus is that the handle press can be used on a flat surface.

I am a bit of a curmudgeon. Well by Winokur's definition a true curmudgeon. Wintering in La Feria Texas and welcome any and all to visit or??
 
I too remember fondly the Herter's catalog in the 60's and 70's when I young. Best hunting, shooting and fishing catalog. They were the Bass Pro and Cabela's back in the day and sold everything you could ever want. Haven't seen any of there stuff in years. Nice find and thanks for bringing back memories for some of us.
 
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