Hi-Point 995 Carbine buttstock mods.?

[timmyjimmy5150]

Okay.....
So I'm at a gun show this weekend and pick-up a used 995 carbine for $100..
Not a bad, little, plinking gun, for messing around with I think......
I'm looking at the rifle last night and it sure is ugly! I was thinking..... You know what would make it look a LOT better? Cut off that rear ugly buttstock just after the receiver shroud.... That would really clean up the appearance of the rifle...... you'd sacrafice accuracy/ maybe comfort..... But it would look better.....
Like THIS:
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hi6fm.jpg
Any opinions?

tj

 

[MatthewVanitas]

Um, that would be very illegal...

Unless you fill out the paperwork and pay the appropriate taxes to the Feds, it's quite illegal to hack the buttstock off of a rifle (or for that matter, to add a buttstock to a pistol). There is a minimum barrel length requirement, and a minimum overall length requirement which firearms must meet, or else they are restricted under the 1934 National Firearms Act.

So far as dressing it up: on a $100 rifle made out of plastic in the 1990s, I don't think anyone would consider in butchery if you slap a NiN sticker on it, doodle with a White Sharpie pen, etc. Heck, grab a glue-gun and some punk spikes and go to town. Not saying that it's a bad rifle at all, just saying that you can really have some fun with the aesthetics without feeling guilty.

Just don't hack off the buttstock unless you contact the BATF and follow their excruciating bureaucratic process first! And it'd probably be less hassle and money to just buy a AR-15 pistol instead, considering the risk of huge fines and jailtime if you hack the buttstock without following the approved process to the letter.

If you do glue chrome spikes onto your Hi-Point, you _must_ post pics. Take care, -MV

 

[jobu07]

I don't think it's illegal to take the buttstock off of a rifle. Only illegal if doing so makes the rifle less than the legal over all length must be. So therefore it would be legal for him to take the stock off of his Hi-Point so long as it longer than the minimum OAL.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[timmyjimmy5150]

Oh well....
I'm not going to mess with it.....It was only $100 used....
Good plinking rifle... I was just wondering..... Figured you couldn't just chop off the buttstock legally..... Glad I asked first....

Thanks

tim

 

[Shweboner]

No worries anyhow... It would still be ugly w/o the stock

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The federal limit on overall length is 26 inches,
The pistol grip shotguns like the Mossberg 500 are
over 26 inches with no buttstock and are treated
as conventional shotguns, not as NFA. A pistol
grip HiPoint carbine over 26 inches should meet
FEDERAL limits. Watch out for State or local laws
that go beyond the federal limit.

The HiPoint carbine is short enough as it is.
Often, a semi-auto rifle fired without shoulder
support may not function properly: I fired an
AR7 rifle without shoulder stock and the bolt
did not recoil far enough to eject the empty.
With the shoulder stock, it worked OK. Some
handguns malfunction unless firmly held.
I would hate to remove the shoulder stock
from a HiPoint and make it unreliable. Those
things are ugly, but every one I have seen
has been reliable in as-is condition.

 

[Rupestris]

There. Thats better.

 

[kngflp]

I saw a guy with a cheek pad on his. Kinda hides the odd lines. If someone could fit a heat shroud to the barrel it would even it out.

 

[benEzra]

In my experience, long guns with no shoulder support absolutely suck as far as accuracy goes. I shot a friend's stockless 12-gauge one time at a range (NFA legal OAL length, pistol grip, sans buttstock), with slugs. Darn thing was IMPOSSIBLE to aim. If you raise it enough to get a sight picture, it will bash you in the teeth when you shoot it. But you can't shoulder-point looking over the gun, because the back of the gun isn't fixed to your shoulder. So I pointed as best I could, aimed at the right-hand target in a pair of IDPA style silhouettes about 25 yards away, and put a single .729 caliber hole COM through the left one.

My mini-14 wears a Butler Creek folder, but I know better than to try to shoot it folded at anything more than derringer range. Folders are for storage, not for shooting...and stockless shotguns IMHO are pretty worthless, at least in my hands...