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How are these used? !! MYSTERY SOLVED!!

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Ray P, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. Ray P

    Ray P Member

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    Found these in a box I purchased at an estate purchase. Got the lead bullets I wanted, but had to take a bunch of reloading stuff I don't recognize. I know what they say they are, but I don't see how they are used.

    I expect I will throw them in my brass/copper recycling bin, but I'm curious how they are supposed to work.

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  2. entropy

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    Pour lead in open hole, let cool, swage up through correct diameter sizing die.
     
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  3. troy fairweather

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    You use a special swaging die and press. To form bullets.
     
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  4. Enfielder

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    Fill them with lead. Run them in a forming die. Make bullets.

    I've never seen the equipment to do it but it can be done and I'm sure someone here has done it with their own equipment. I'd put them up for sale, trade, or good kharma rather than recycle them. Some yahoo here will have a use for them.
     
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  5. Ray P

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    Thanks, guys. Seemed like a tiny thing to fill with hot lead, and couldn't picture how it got from .306 to .308. But I guess if there is a hard enough stop, and enough force pushing on the other end, it will happen.
     
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  7. Ray P

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    Great idea. I've just put them in the trading post for the cost of shipping.
     
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  8. GRIZ22

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    Never heard of filling jackets with molten lead. You swage bullets using lead wire.
     
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  9. forrest r

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    You either use lead wire or cast a lead core. I use this adjustable core mold to cast lead cores for the 22cal & 30cal jacketed bullets.
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    I also have a 8-cavity mold that rains lead cores for the 223rem's. Cast 1300 cores in less then an hour with it.
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    There's 2 ways to swage jacketed bullets, 1 way for blammo ammo & the other for surprisingly accurate bullets.

    Blammo ammo:
    Drop cast lead core into a jacket like what the op has in his picture.
    seat core/flatten out in jacket with seating die.
    Point form the bullet, clean the lube off and use.

    Quality bullets:
    Use either cast cores or cores cut from lead wire and lube/run them up in a bleed die to uniform the size/weight.
    Clean core put in a jacket and use a seating die to flatten the core in the jacket. This will also expand the jacket 1/1000".
    Lube the expanded core jacket and run it up in a point forming die, clean and use.

    I don't make 30cal swaged bullets anymore but I still do several 1000's of the 22cal's a year.
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  10. Texas10mm

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    Swaging bullets is something that's always interested me. But I just don't shoot enough to come even close to making it worth it. Actually I shoot a LOT of cast pistol bullets.
     
  11. forrest r

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    Totally understood, just something I wanted to try. Liked the idea of using 22lr cases and free bullets. At the end of the day I'll end up making/using +/- 50,000 free bullets and then sell the swaging dies for twice as much as I have into them.

    Cast pistol bullets are the way to go. Way too much fun with them along with we're lucky enough to live in an era that has mold makers putting out quality molds at reasonable prices.
     
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  12. Scooter22

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    You can also get lead wire to fit the jackets. Cut to length, insert and swedge.
     
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