How do you know if a plated bullet is loaded to fast?

[jmorris]

Accuracy regardless was poor too vs actual J-HP.

I have never found a plated bullet, even one that stays together to be as or more accurate than a good JHP.

 

[AJC1]

But not plating?

I've loaded plated bullets (180gr) in 10mm and was amazed to see the pin wheels as have been pictured (not the wild one) over a healthy dose of longshot. I haven't loaded more. Plated were interesting for a short moment of the pandemic where they were all that was around. Easy to compromise (penetrate and show the lead core) the plating too with just a bit too much crimp. Never shot those. Accuracy regardless was poor too vs actual J-HP.

Plating or jackets don't spray. The internal lead kinda squirts out of a bullet that is pierced. Now if the guilding material is bisected with a crimp and shot fast you may see effects I'm unfamiliar with. Theat could be the blob in the last picture.

 

[n2omike]

I have never found a plated bullet, even one that stays together to be as or more accurate than a good JHP.

I've tested the Berrys 147 grain plated directly against the RMR 147 grain FMJ round nose. Same profile.
The gun was a scoped AR9 with a 10.5" barrel with 3.8 grains of HP38 at around 960 fps. No crimp, 1.14".
At 33 and 50 yards, there was no comparison in groups. The RMR was around an inch, the plated were 3" or more.

I've also used the Berrys 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. Those shot great. They were a subsonic load, but even with loads that went supersonic, they still shot around an inch at 50 yards. With some powders, the groups were bad at subsonic, but tightened up to an inch once they were supersonic.

With plated, you just have to try to see if they are going to work. With my very limited sample size, I'm wary of plated pistol bullets for anything but close range plinking, but like the 300 BO units.

I have some of the Berrys 45 ACP 230 grain plated hybrid hollow points. They can't have much in the way of structural integrity, and will likely explode on impact... but I have a feeling they will be a lot of fun to shoot water filled milk jugs and pop/soda bottles with. lol

 

[jmorris]

With plated, you just have to try to see if they are going to work.

+1

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I've tested the Berrys 147 grain plated directly against the RMR 147 grain FMJ round nose. Same profile.
The gun was a scoped AR9 with a 10.5" barrel with 3.8 grains of HP38 at around 960 fps. No crimp, 1.14".
At 33 and 50 yards, there was no comparison in groups. The RMR was around an inch, the plated were 3" or more.

I've also used the Berrys 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. Those shot great. They were a subsonic load, but even with loads that went supersonic, they still shot around an inch at 50 yards. With some powders, the groups were bad at subsonic, but tightened up to an inch once they were supersonic.

With plated, you just have to try to see if they are going to work. With my very limited sample size, I'm wary of plated pistol bullets for anything but close range plinking, but like the 300 BO units.

I have some of the Berrys 45 ACP 230 grain plated hybrid hollow points. They can't have much in the way of structural integrity, and will likely explode on impact... but I have a feeling they will be a lot of fun to shoot water filled milk jugs and pop/soda bottles with. lol

Give them a try but when I tried them they acted like round nose and didn't expand a bit. Then again, I only load my .45ACP to 850fps max. from a 5" bbl.

 

[n2omike]

Give them a try but when I tried them they acted like round nose and didn't expand a bit. Then again, I only load my .45ACP to 850fps max. from a 5" bbl.

Wow, even in water? Berrys recommends 825-975 fps for that bullet... so you were right at the lower end of the scale. Click on "Loading Tips". Most of their offerings have 'loading tips' you can click on.
https://www.berrysmfg.com/product/bp-45-452-230gr-hhp

I'll probably load them fairly warm for maximum water bottle destruction. lol I also have a 16 year old, and for him, the more recoil and destruction... the better.
I also have a 5" barrel. Colt 1911. We'll see how it does. It's all I have that shoots 45 ACP.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Wow, even in water? Berrys recommends 825-975 fps for that bullet... so you were right at the lower end of the scale. Click on "Loading Tips". Most of their offerings have 'loading tips' you can click on.
https://www.berrysmfg.com/product/bp-45-452-230gr-hhp

I'll probably load them fairly warm for maximum water bottle destruction. lol I also have a 16 year old, and for him, the more recoil and destruction... the better.
I also have a 5" barrel. Colt 1911. We'll see how it does. It's all I have that shoots 45 ACP.

A max load of Accurate No.7 might get you to 950fps from a 5" 1911 but a regular diet like that's pushing a stock gun pretty hard. I know from experience even a near-max load of No.5 won't get you to the 930fps Western claims. Blue Dot will get you close to 975 - and is DARNED impressive, especially at dusk - but that's a very temperamental powder to be playing around with max loads in a pistol worth keeping. Good luck and go slow working up to max.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I shot accura out doors plated 9mm at a thick stak of cardboard. Backed with a 1 inch thick OSB board. 124 grain R/N and H.P. At10 feet away. I think 4 grains of bullseye . They went throgh everything. Round holes in and out. I was trying to see how they mushroomed. But the plating held up.