How to talk to an anti about being pro or anti? Well, best way seems to be like a fart in church, ignore it, and change the subject. Antis, by and large, believe in imaginary things. In this they are usually unshakable. You are faced with the logical dilemma of proving a negative to these people. Might as well try to disprove UFOs, ailen abductions, copr circles, the tri-lateral commission, or any of dozens of beliefs held with religious conviction. Anti's believe things like anything shaped like an AR-15 or AK or the like is a machine gun, no matter what. they've seen it on tv--they are all "machine guns' to them. They believe that the NRA wants, and allows, people to hunt bunnies and baby deer with M-60s. They do not think any gun laws presently exist. They believe things like criminals obey laws (since they are just like us, except for how they are forced to commit crimes and all). They believe these things like they believe the sun rises in the East. Further, most have not been taught that the Sunrise defines east; as far as they are concerened, east is just something we've all just agreed upon. So, if you try to educate, even socratically, all they tend to hear is that you are spouting nonsense. The Sun doesn't rise in the West! How can there be 20,000 gun laws? People would obey those, wouldn't they? They have to! They are Laws! Everybody is Just Like Me, and I Obey Laws! (Do not point out that they all know at least one speeder or recreational chemical user--they don't "get" irony either.) They simply have no framework to consider crime victimization versus population, that there are people who are lawless and will disobey laws at will. All that really happens is that the anti has to go twitter anout the psychopath they met; some sort of throwback creature, O it was horrible. And they seemed so normal, not like the hunched-over knuckle-dragging nra types we all can normally spot . . .