How To Stay Free of the Flu

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These tips can be used everyday and are helpful in the early stages
before most people even know there's a pandemic beginning. Later
steps as already discussed on THR include bugging in at home with
adequate supplies to feed you and your family. Include plenty of
bottled water and alternative heat sources (if you live in colder areas).


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Health briefings

The Times October 26, 2005

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How to stay free of flu

by Lizzie Enfield

With the flu season on its way, our correspondent reveals what you need to do to cut the chances of infection by 40 per cent

There is a scene in the American sitcom Curb Your Enthusiasm that now appears surprisingly prescient, given the current anxiety about avian flu.
Larry David and Ben Stiller are being introduced on the set of The Producers when Stiller sneezes, and tries to catch the spray before extending a handshake.

David pointedly ignores the proffered hand, anxious not to become contaminated with Stiller’s germs, but in the process clearly offending him.

Even a few weeks ago we might have thought David’s behaviour unnecessarily rude, but with dead parrots making the fear of a flu pandemic more immediate, the way we treat the potentially infectious may have to change. For if avian flu “learns” how to infect humans, like other flu it will be spread in the particles of saliva expelled through coughing and sneezing. A sneeze can travel at 80 miles an hour, reaching distances of up to 30ft away. Just one sneeze can project 100,000 flu particles into the air.

How long those particles survive depends on the type of virus and the environmental conditions. Flu viruses can survive for more than 24 hours but for even longer indoors in winter because indoor air is more humid.

Professor John Oxford, a virologist at St Bartholomew’s and the Royal London Hospital, has looked at the most effective methods of preventing the transmission of colds and flu and says that, as well as vaccines and antiviral drugs, personal hygiene should be a priority.

“Over the past few decades there has been a worldwide general decline in levels of hygiene. We’ve seen the effects that this can have with MRSA, which focused attention on hygiene in hospitals. The levels of hygiene in hospitals were a reflection of the general situation and we all need to get our houses in order if we are to reduce the spread of infectious diseases.”

A man you’d expect to catch every cough, cold and nasty virus doing the rounds is Professor Ron Eccles, director of the Common Cold Centre in Cardiff. Yet, despite being surrounded by coughing, spluttering volunteers, he suffers only one or two colds a year, a fact he attributes to regular handwashing and avoiding touching his face.

“You’d have to be a hermit never to catch a cold, but in experimental conditions when healthy volunteers are kept with others who are suffering from common cold infections it has proven remarkably difficult to spread infection from one person to another. Most colds are caught at home, because of increased proximity and duration of exposure to the virus.”

In his view, it would be “rude” to offer a “mucus-laden handshake”. “If someone did whether I accepted it or not would probably depend on their status. In any case, I would wash my hands at the first opportunity.”

To catch a cold or flu virus, the mucus from the respiratory tract of someone infected has to get directly into your own respiratory tract. If an infected person coughs or sneezes near you, the risk is that you inhale their infected droplets; alternatively you touch a surface on which these droplets have landed, picking up the virus on your fingers, and then by rubbing your eyes or touching your nose, deposit the virus in your own respiratory tract.

Studies have shown that a cold or flu virus can survive on human hands for several hours. The virus can also survive up to 48 hours on non-porous surfaces such as a telephone, computer keyboard, doorknobs, kitchen utensils or toys. This is what makes handwashing so important. By washing your hands frequently and not touching your face, Professor Oxford says, you reduce the incidence of respiratory disease by 40 per cent.

The Health Protection Agency has not issued specific advice for avian flu; however, its general advice for avoiding infections includes washing your hands after blowing your nose, coughing or sneezing — you should wash more frequently if someone in your home or workplace is sick.

A cursory rinse under the taps is not enough: the HPA says we should wash using soap and warm running water, washing all skin surfaces thoroughly, including wrists, palms, back of hands, between fingers and under fingernails, and we should do this for at least 20 seconds before rinsing thoroughly and drying with a paper towel, clean fabric towel or air dryer.

The HPA also advises patting the skin dry, rather than rubbing, to avoid cracking and chapping, a common complaint among GPs and people who wash their hands more frequently than the rest of us.

In the flu pandemic of 1918 people began routinely to wear improvised facemasks and were told to avoid mixing in public places such as theatres and railway stations. There is little evidence, says Dr Anne Hardy, a reader in the history of medicine at University College London’s Wellcome Institute, that social sanctions extended beyond these measures but at the time people were used to the stigma attached to killer diseases such as tuberculosis, scarlet fever and polio.

“In the early 20th century, death and disease were still very much a part of daily life but since the Fifties, with improved living conditions and greater access to medical treatment, our attitude to disease has become somewhat distorted. We expect a cure to be made available, rather than actively trying not to get ill in the first place.”

But what if you find yourself in a Larry David social situation: do you shake hands, but make a concerted effort not to touch your face and then sneak off to wash your hands at the first possible opportunity? Avoid the handshake, Charles Mosley, the editor of Debretts, suggests. “It’s obviously slightly offensive to treat people like lepers but it’s also offensive knowingly to spread infectious diseases. As Zuleika Dobson said in Max Beerbohm’s novel: ‘Death cancels all social obligations.’ I would add that the risk of death may not cancel them entirely, but it certainly whittles them down. If shaking someone’s hand put me at risk of contracting a potentially fatal disease, I wouldn’t shake it, out of politeness.”

If Stiller had just sneezed, and not tried to catch the spray with his hand, then David might have avoided the offending germs anyway. If you are on the receiving end of a sneeze, a scenario familiar to anyone who uses public transport, you won’t necessarily pick up the offending virus, says Eccles. “In that instance, you will normally escape a cold, as our defences are usually effective and any viruses are trapped in nasal mucus and washed to the stomach , where they are inactivated. The danger is from particles entering through the eyes, from where they are washed to the nose via the tear duct. So if someone sneezes, try to turn away and close your eyes.”

Meanwhile, to avoid spreading their germs, Professor Eccles says sneezers should cover their nose and mouth with a tissue thick enough that it doesn’t break up on use and dispose of it immediately.

The SARS outbreak in 2003 began to raise consciousness of what one American health official called “good respiratory etiquette”. The increase in levels of hygiene in the countries that had SARS led to a “detectable” decrease in levels of flu, says Oxford, as people began wearing masks in public places (although scientists believe that the viruses that may be the cause of SARS are so tiny that they can easily pass through such barriers) and disinfecting shared equipment such as telephones, computer terminals and doorknobs.

Already there are several websites offering face masks, goggles (to prevent viruses entering the system through the eyes) and portable hand sanitisers to anyone preparing to avoid avian flu.

At the end of the Second World War the Department of Health tried to keep the nation “fighting fit” with a poster campaign warning that “coughs and sneezes spread disea- ses” and the dictat to “trap the germs in your handkerchief”. Nowadays health professionals regard handkerchiefs as un- hygienic and the current Department of Health’s guidelines for flu and colds is to use disposable tissues.

If the pandemic becomes a reality, the guidelines will become more hardline, and could include avoiding handshakes and other forms of social contact.

SCENARIO 1: TOILET DOOR HANDLES

Q: A colleague assumed to have flu sneezes into his hands and then uses the office toilet. He does not wash his hands afterwards. You go to the toilet, wash your hands thoroughly and then exit, thereby touching the same door handles that he has also handled. Does the door handle present a health risk for influenza? If so, how can one minimise it?

A: Yes, there is a risk but it can be reduced. The influenza virus cannot be transmitted simply by someone going to the toilet and not washing his hands; there must be virus on his hands which can then be passed on. There are two types of influenza responsible for most infections: A and B. Both viruses last for 24-48 hours on hard, non-porous surfaces such as stainless steel and plastic but survive for less than 8-12 hours on cloth, paper and tissues.

Hard surfaces (eg, kitchen worktops, door handles) should be cleaned frequently, using a normal cleaning product. One option would be to clean the door handle, wash hands and then exit. People with suspected flu should stay at home.

Adapted from advice given by the Health Protection Agency

SCENARIO 2: SNEEZES ON A CROWDED BUS

Q: You are on a crowded bus and someone close to you sneezes, without covering their nose and mouth. Is there anything you can do to minimise your chances of catching an infection, eg, wear a mask, get off at the next stop and wash your hands before continuing your journey?

A: Catching the infection from someone in the vicinity will depend on how close you are to the person sneezing, air humidity, the amount of virus present and whether you are susceptible to the infection, ie, if you have suffered from it before and gained immunity or if you have been vaccinated. If someone does sneeze near you, make sure you wash your hands and face as soon as appropriately possible.

Adapted from advice given by the Health Protection Agency

Health Protection Agency: www.hpa.org.uk

Department of Health: www.dh.gov.uk
 
Handshaking is an empty, meaningless, archaic ritual that should be abandoned along with golf and neckties.
 
AirForceShooter said:
Donald Trump won't shake hands.

He looks pretty healthy.

AFS

Howard Hughes didn't shake hands either. He was pretty normal huh? :evil:


How about if we just go through a bottle of Purel a day for a while?
 
I haven't caught a cold since I quit opening public restroom doors with my bare hands when leaving, and started opening them with a paper towel between my hand & the doorknob.

Looks silly, but it works.

pax
 
Not silly at all PAX. I NEVER touch things in a mens room with my bare hands. Being one , I just happen to know what filthy pigs men are !

SKIP
 
A colleague assumed to have flu sneezes into his hands and then uses the office toilet. He does not wash his hands afterwards.
How frickin' lazy are people? I see this all day long at work. What a bunch of pigs!!
 
R.H. Lee said:
Handshaking is an empty, meaningless, archaic ritual that should be abandoned along with golf and neckties.

Well, it is quite useful to keep folks from hugging you :rolleyes:
 
I became best friends with a bottle of Germ-X a few years ago and haven't gotten sick since. I also keep a little extra distance from sick people. If they are offended, tough.
 
I agree on the restrooms, I break out a paper towel for the grimey parts... worst case scenario and I have to take a crap (reserved for extreme circumstances) , I spend 15 minutes covering the place in tissues and whatnot :D especially in airports lol
 
Frankly, ide much rather catch the virus and live through it, rather than avoiding it.

A sort of, what deosnt kill you makes you stronger mentality, but the fact is people do get immune and stronger against these things.
 
there are certianly things to do to protect yourself
nothing wrong with it. Anything can be done to the extreme
 
How about if we just go through a bottle of Purel a day for a while?

At my work they have bottles of that stuff everywhere, the boss wont hire enough people so he compensates by giving us free flue shots every fall and overstocking the station with that junk.

My best gag was when one of the germophobes at work had just doused her hands in the stuff. I told her i thought the stuff was a lousy idea, she launched into a tirade about how it made you healthier. I proved her wrong by slathering my hand i the stuff and then touched the alchohol off with my zippo.


WOOF!!! "OH MY GOD!!!"

"See, flamable liquid as a germ killer, lousy idea........OW! HOT!" (puts out hand)
 
Staying away from me right at the moment would help...:eek:

Washing hands before touching food or your face will definitely help, no rubbing your eyes folks.

And when you get sick despite your efforts, and find yourself at work with a bad fever, it is time to go home and get some rest.:eek:
 
I haven't caught a cold since I quit opening public restroom doors with my bare hands when leaving, and started opening them with a paper towel between my hand & the doorknob.
Shades of Steve Martin in "Trains, Planes, and Automobiles".
I do the same thing, have for years. Somehow, I think we're all gonna die anyway.
 
pax said:
I haven't caught a cold since I quit opening public restroom doors with my bare hands when leaving, and started opening them with a paper towel between my hand & the doorknob.

Looks silly, but it works.

pax

I won't even use public rest rooms, find a bush - go there.
 
halvey said:
How frickin' lazy are people? I see this all day long at work. What a bunch of pigs!!


Where I used to work, the public restrooms would look like Katrina had hit them by early afternoon. I often wondered if those slobs kept their bathrooms at home in that condition.
 
but the fact is people do get immune and stronger against these things
There's evidence to suggest that a large part of what we consider normal aging is cumulative damage from the viral illnesses contracted during a lifetime.

Furthermore, any immunity you gain against a cold or flu virus lasts only a year or so.

You're far better off in the long run not catching colds and flus. And more to the point, if you don't catch it, you won't pass it to someone else and they won't pass it to someone else, etc. ;)
 
There's a whole movement away from automatically vaccinating pets anually. Apparently immunity often lasts many years, some of the diseases vaccinated for are not serious, and some vaccines cause harm. http://www.news.wisc.edu/8413.html

Personally, I don't get vaccinated for anything. I feel that vaccination subsidizes weak genes.
 
how to stay free of the flu?

Play in raw sewage so your body is battered by crap. You will end up with little white cell commandos that will laugh at the pitiful flu

I havn't had anything more then a 24 hour bug in years and I have never had a flue shot or taken special measures to keep from getting sick.

And sick as it sounds (no this is not my secret to staying healthy! lol) picking your nose and eating it is a natural way to vacinate yourself. It introduces small amounts of virus and bacteria that are in small enough concentrations to not get sick from but enough for your imune system to be exposed to it and be worked out....least thats what I heard lol.
 
Another great defense is being in excellent physical shape. Lance Armstrong would be an extreme example of how fitness can help you fight off sickness.
 
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