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How's the Lee Hand press for a newbie without much space or cash?

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Been looking at them on midway, would use it to reload .357/.38Spc and 9X18.

How are they for first time reloading.

Aside from actual cartridge components, I'd need dies, Auto primer cause I'm lazy, a way to measure powder, and a manual. Would I need anything else?
 
I'm not sure how much room you have but I know that the hand press is good of your not going to load thousands and thousands of rounds.. They are kinda slow and you have to be careful seating the bullet so the powder doesn't fall out while doing this.

If you have a good solid table I would get the Challenger starter kit. Comes with everything you need except dies and it would hold up alot better. I had one mounted on a thick board and when I got ready to load I clamped it to a table and it worked fine.
 
While the hand press will work you can get a Lee basic single stage press, Part #90045 for under $30. See it here on Midway USA You don't need a lot of space for that press if you mount it on a piece of wood and use a "C" clamp when you want to use the press, no permanent mounting space needed.
 
They work fine but you'll work a little harder. A single stage bolted to a foot long 2x8 can be clamped to table, desk,bench, or railing and stored in minimal space. Manuals, get manuals !

Edit to add Archangel types faster than me, lol ! (and tlmkr38)
 
I would second getting a press. If your goal is to save money on ammo, I think you'd spend so much time making the ammo it wouldn't be worth the money you save. I even felt that way about my single stage. I bought Lee Breech lock challenger kit, and after 100 rounds upgraded to a Lee Classic turret. There are a lot of ideas on this thread for saving space. My original setup was on a piece of cull lumber from Home depot and some clamps. Cost me $15 to mount my press to a table.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=218720&page=81

Edit to add ArchAngel and NATO 7.62 type faster than me.
 
A Lee case trimmer for each cartridge you plan to reload.
Forget what others may say about never having to trim .38 Special cases. Yes, you do, if only to get consistent crimps on the bullet. But over time, .38 Special cases will stretch, depending upon how much pressure they've been subjected to, and will need trimming.

After trimming, you'll need to chamfer the case to remove burrs. The Lee chamfer is good. Inexpensive too.

A block of some kind to hold the cases upright, while processing, is needed. I like the MTM Case Gard block, but Hornady makes a good one too. You may wish to buy two, so you can move from one block to another as you process cases. For example, after charging the primed case with powder, place it in a separate block. This helps prevent double-charging.

A small penlight, to look down into the cases to look for double charges, is handy.

If you're not using carbide dies, you'll need case lubricant.

Calipers. This will save you a lot of guesswork and mystery. The manual ones are good. An electronic one is easier to read. Ensure either is a name brand, so it's accurate.

The best manual is made by Lyman, in my estimation. Lee makes a decent manual, but the Lyman covers all aspects well, and with plenty of illustrations to accompany the information. The latest version is No. 49. It's worth the money.

You'll want a means to clean the crud off cases, after returning from the range and before reloading. A rag dampened with lighter fluid will remove fouling, bullet lubricant, crud, dirt, etc. But you'll probably want a vibratory cleaner eventually. I like my Hornady but any well known brand is good. You can reduce their noise on a hard floor by putting them on a small rug. This won't affect their vibratory operation and is much quieter.

The original factory ammo box may be fine, or it may be flimsy. You may wish to go to plastic boxes made for reloads, such as those made by MTM, Dillon or others. They're sturdy and will keep ammo protected from dust.

Labels. Absolutely, do not forget to label each box as to the case manufacturer, primer, bullet, powder, powder charge, date of reloading, expected velocity (according to your manual), etc.
Buy the kind of cartridge box that doesn't have a removeable lid, and tape your label to the exterior of the box. Otherwise, you may accidentally switch lids and misidentify a load.

Notebook. Write your load in this book as well, along with the info, and then take it to the range. At the range, you can take notes on how well it performs. This will save you a great deal of mystery, trial and error down the road. Don't forget to note which gun you shot your loads in. Each gun is an individual. One will like a load that the other dislikes.

You'll find other doodads and gadgets down the road that you need, but this will get you started.
I cranked out my first reload in 1971, for a Model 94 Winchester in .32 Winchester Special I still have. I used a Lee Loader. Today, I reload for nearly 25 different calibers, using a Dillon 550B press for high volume, and a Lee single-stage press for the occasional box or two or little-used calibers.
 
Forget what others may say about never having to trim .38 Special cases. Yes, you do, if only to get consistent crimps on the bullet.
Funny you should say that. My 38 special is the only brass I've trimmed, to date. I found a huge variation there, between headstamps. Most of it was "donated" anonymously, by way of a large paper cup full of brass sitting in the desert. So maybe that has something to do with it? (I shot the cup twice before realizing what was in it, lol. ):)

As for one for each caliber, that's probably a good idea. But I just used my Mak case trimmer and some calipers, and it worked out alright.
 
They are OK for first time reloading. They are not very precise, but they get the job done. I would not load precision rifle ammo on them, but handguns won't notice. I use them for sizing/decapping, case mouth expanding, taper crimping, etc. while watching TV.
 
Gatofeo is right on. I am probably the world's greatest advocate of minimalist reloading (Press, Dies, some way to mete powder, add more as you discover you need it.)

But Safety glasses (your shooting glasses will do until you get a dedicated pair) or face shield are a foregone conclusion.

I loaded for 10 years without a bullet puller, and another seven after that before I ever needed to use it. Calipers, same story, but thirty-three and one.

A manual, not just for the load recipes, but for the early chapters' description of reloading processes is an essential unless you have another source. ABC's or reloading has no recipes, but is a very good read for the descriptions. I an quite fond of Lyman's manual and Lee's Modern Reloading (aside from Richard Lee's attitude) is quite good.

I have seven sets of dies, two powder measures, a Lee Classic Turret press primer feed devices (for use on the press - I am lazy, too and priming on-press is easier, for me, at least) miscellaneous small tools, safety glasses, of course. They all fit in three toolboxes, the larges of which is 23" x 10"x10". Mount the press on a folding workbench and go to town. (Bullets, brass, powder and primers are stored separately.)

Lost Sheep
 
They will work no doubt. I bought one on a lark just to see. If I had to load in the backseat of a minivan it would be my choice if there was absolutely no surface to clamp a press to. But really, I would take a Lee Challenger or even a C press any day over the hand press even if I had to temporarily clamp them to the toilet lid.

They beat the whackamole things, but they are a lot more awkward to use than you might think.
 
Why not?

Uniquedot said:
Does .357 dies and equipment work for .38?
38 special dies will do 38's and 357's, but 357 wont do 38's.
As Paul Harvey used to say, "and now for the rest of the story".

The reason some 357 dies will not work for 38 special is that the body of the die is made longer. The 38 special case is too short to allow the case mouth to reach up to the crimping shoulder inside the bullet seating/crimping die.

For the case mouth belling die, all you have to do is not screw the die in all the way. I do not believe any die maker has ever made a 38 Special die too short to do that.

For the sizing die, since the work is done at the very bottom of the die, there is no compatibility problem.

I may be misinformed, but I have heard that all the currently made dies have all their38/357 dies able to do both. I know of no reason a die maker would go to the added expense of making two different size dies when one size can do both.

Lost Sheep
 
I have the Lee Press ArchAngel mentions and use it exclusively for 38 Special. It is not built strongly but it is more than adequate for most if not all handgun rounds.
 
Does .357 dies and equipment work for .38?

Redding, Hornady, and RCBS sell die sets that do both 38 Special and 357 Magnum. They even list that on the box.

Lee says their 38 Special will do 357 Magnum but the 357 Magnum will not do 38 Special.

At least RCBS includes a spacer ring with the die set so that you don't have to re-adjust the expander or seater dies when switching cartridges. Just use the spacer ring when loading 357 Magnum.

There are other die sets designed to reload multiple cartridges that are similar. 40 S&W/10mm Auto, 45 Colt/45 Casull, 44 Special/44 Magnum and a few others.
 
I have or had pretty much of everything. I like the handpress for my 9mm especially when I have a lot of sizing and priming to do but want to be up on my LazyBoy versus downstairs in the man-cave. I am always surprised how much I can get done. That being said with a little dandy powder measure and a bullet tray you can actually really go to town with no C clamps around. I never had any real issue with bullet seating if the case was properly expanded. Go for it.
 
They are OK for first time reloading. They are not very precise, but they get the job done. I would not load precision rifle ammo on them

Someone should have told the guy this that set a benchrest record @ 1000 yards for the worlds smallest group using the Lee hand press and Lee collet dies.

Perhaps if he had known the tool wasn't precise his groups would have been even smaller using something of precision.
 
The issue between the Lee's Handpress and the Reloader press isn't money, they cost the same. It isn't size because they are about the same size. It isn't precision, either will load as well as any other press and both need a seperate priming tool. It isn't strength, neither is massively strong but each will reload common cartridges quite well.

The real question is which press is easier to use, and for that the Reloader wins. It's really easy to spill powder when trying to seat a bullet while using a hand press, you need three hands for that. Bolt the Reloader press to a 12" section of 2x4 then use C clamps to secure it to a table top and your loading will be quick and easy.
 
I made a reloading bench from a workmate beefing it up and I love it. We have a two bedroom apartment and I can set it up, ount the press and be relaoding is five minutes flat. If you would like pictures and a drawing PM me with your email aqddress. Be Safe
 
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