Hunter Jordan fired from Verizon, Boycott Verizon

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PRESS RELEASE FROM THE LIBERTY ROUND TABLE

3/30/04; For Immediate Distribution

Liberty Activist Retroactively Fired by Verizon Communications

On March 29, 2004, Jeffrey "the Hunter" Jordan, a resident of New
Hampshire, received notice dated 3/26/04 that Verizon Communications
had fired him, retroactive to January 7, 2004. In the letter, the
stated reason for the firing was "failure to comply with the policies
outlined within Verizon's Code of Business Conduct". No details on
how Mr. Jordan failed to comply with the company's policies were
provided. Jordan is planning to fight this action. Friends of his at
the Liberty Round Table, a group that advocates individual liberty
and personal responsibility, have begun calling for a boycott of
Verizon over the company's questionable actions regarding his case.

There is reason to believe the firing is related to Mr. Jordan's
arrest on 12/29/03 in Ohio for carrying a concealed weapon. At that
time he was on his way home from a holiday visit to his family in
Kansas. After being detained a few days in the Ashland County jail,
and despite having arranged for extra time off from Verizon, Jordan
returned home to a phone message from his employer stating that he
was suspended from his position.

Why has Mr. Jordan been suspended and then retroactively fired,
without any hearing on either action, as is required by the terms of
his employment contract? These questions have gone unanswered, as
requests to Verizon seeking information on its activities have not
brought any response.

Sunni Maravillosa, a friend of Jordan's and a fellow Liberty Round
Table activist, said, "It is curious that Verizon is apparently
firing Hunter for actions taken hundreds of miles from his Verizon
work sites, in his own vehicle, and while on personal time. Also,
that they've taken this action in violation of his contract, and
without any due process or presumption of innocence, should be very
troubling to all Americans."

Carl Bussjaeger, a friend of Jordan's in New Hampshire, commented, "I
look forward to Verizon explaining in court why they met with
Hunter's union after January 7th to discuss his ongoing suspension.
If he was already fired, wouldn't that have been a dandy time to
mention the fact?"

Jordan has issued the following statement: "I have for years now been
subject to the day-to-day thoughtless tyrannies inherent in any big
corporation. I have consciously chosen to tolerate these very real
oppressions as part of the cost of earning a living, but now the
corporate bureaucrats have gone too far.

"Verizon has consciously chosen to ignore one of the fundamental
assumptions of American jurisprudence -- that a man is innocent until
proven guilty. They've also chosen to blatantly violate the contract
that tens of thousands of union employees fought long and hard over
the years to hammer out.

"I am confident that justice will prevail in the end, and am fully
prepared to fight these petty tyrants hiding behind the corporate
veil just as strongly as I have every other sort I've run across in
my journey through life."

People interested in joining the fight against this injustice are
encouraged to write to Verizon, for which address information and
letter templates can be found here:

http://www.gbronline.com/cwb/samizdat/huntersamples.html

For the latest news on Mr. Jordan's case, see the official "Free
Hunter" web pages:

http://www.libertyroundtable.org/projects/freehunter/


For further comments, please contact Sunni Maravillosa, co-founder of
the Liberty Round Table (http://www.libertyroundtable.org/), at
[email protected].



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"There is reason to believe the firing is related to Mr. Jordan's
arrest on 12/29/03 in Ohio for carrying a concealed weapon."

- I mean no offense to Mr.Jordan, but I guess it wasn't concealed well enough. I wonder what he was up to that he was stopped in the first place.

"Verizon has consciously chosen to ignore one of the fundamental
assumptions of American jurisprudence -- that a man is innocent until
proven guilty. "

- I have always believed that the above statement presumes guilt, not innocence. It also presumes that those trying to prove guilt may not be totally on top of it and that it may take them a while to prove guilt. I think the statement should be, "Innocent UNLESS proven guilty."

- Kind of the same as people believing that our constitution enumerates the right to a "jury of our peers". It was that sort of stacking of the jury that our founders were trying to avoid when they crafted the sixth amendment stating, "...the accused shall have the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury..."

gunsmith,
What are Hunter's other legal problems that you mention?
 
Hunter apparently can't talk about the progress of the case much.

The initial charge was speeding, and the Ohio police officer spotted a mag on his belt. On his person and in his car there was a variety of firearms and edged weapons. He could face several years in the pen for concealed carry in Ohio. It is a felony so he could also lose his RTKBA permanently.
 
I would need to read his shop's employment contract to be sure, but from the little I know about this case, it seems to be a slam dunk for his union to win in an arbitration hearing.

Verizon may have a 'no-felons employed here' rule, but I would imagine that they have to wait for a conviction before they term an existing employee.
 
I mean no offense to Mr.Jordan, but I guess it wasn't concealed well enough. I wonder what he was up to that he was stopped in the first place.

Speeding.

How are Hunter's other legal problems going?

Back to court in May, IIRC.

He got his truck back, but not his guns (no surprise there, I guess) and (curiously) not his laptop computer. Noone will admit to knowing anything about that.

There was a _loong_ thread about this case when it first broke. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57359&highlight=hunter+arrest .
 
This sounds to me like a union contract dispute regarding an employee breaking the law and getting caught.

Mr. Jordan of all people should have known the law and should have known he was breaking it. You work within the framework of the law to change it, you don't break the law to make a point and then complain about being convicted. A Second Amendment activist surely can't argue ignorance of the law. Sure he was from out of state, but even I can do a web search and find the relevant laws in Ohio -- and I'm no 2A activist.

No way will I dump my Verizon account on Mr. Jordan's behalf.
 
This sounds to me like a union contract dispute regarding an employee breaking the law and getting caught.

The point is that he hasn't been convicted of anything, yet they terminated his employment.

Arrest doesn't equal guilt.

Verizon may have been within their rights to suspend him pending the outcome of a trial, but unless the union is totally useless in negotiating a contract, it doesn't permit them to terminate his employment prior to a conviction.

RKBA aspects of the case aside, I'd boycott Verizon simply because they're trying to ride roughshod over the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

I can't boycott them however, because the only telecom services I use are provided by a local company that isn't affiliated with Verizon.
 
What Glockman said.

Hopefully he is a union employee and the union will support him with a good attorney for wrongful termination. Also, hopefully Jordan will win in Ohio.

-Jim
 
Riverdog,

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You work within the framework of the law to change it, you don't break the law to make a point and then complain about being convicted. A Second Amendment activist surely can't argue ignorance of the law. Sure he was from out of state, but even I can do a web search and find the relevant laws in Ohio -- and I'm no 2A activist.
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what do you think that Rosa Parks did in the 50s? what do you think people tried to do in Little Rock, Arkansas in the 1950s through 1960s? what tactics do you think that Ghandi used in India in the 1920s, 1930s etc? What tactics do you think MLK encouraged during the Civil Rights marches? they all encouraged and utilized civil disobedience.

Who was it that said that breaking an unjust law is not a crime?

The problem with doing that in the context of the second amendment is that by bearing arms, you can be perceived violent or potentially violent.

Yes, this guy should have been informed about the law before going on his trip, however this issue is very seperate from the issue of his termination from his employer.

-Jim

PS Henry David Thoureau went to jail for civil disobedience. He refused to pay his poll tax. I believe he wrote an essay or treatise called "Civil Disobedience". It has been a while since I read it or excerpts of it in high school but it might be worth reading.

Edited for spelling. and PS
 
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I second that, E-Jim.

I've often found that the quickest to hang a gunnie is another gunnie. "Only six US parts on your Imbel-receivered FAL? You bum!!"
Riverdog said:
A Second Amendment activist surely can't argue ignorance of the law.
"An Abolitionist surely should know about the Fugitive Slave Act. Work within the framework of the Law to abolish slavery. Don't participate in the Underground Railroad."

Tell me, Riverdog, if you were sitting on a jury (Jordan's, Rosa Parks, or Ghandi's) would you vote to convict or acquit?

I think it is time we stopped eating our young.

Rick
 
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