I was a foolish M-10 snob (long winded apology)

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Even in my most "Wheelgun/Walnut/Steel" phase gotta admit I always kinda looked down on the poor old 4" M-10. Considered the pencil bbl models to be kinda Barney Fife or Security guard guns and the 4" heavy bbl models to be basically the original "wannabe" tactical guns for Departments that could not afford or get approved guns like the M-19 or 586. After some time though I've kinda come to the conclusion that most of the traits I didn't like about the M-10 have some advantages, at least for me.

Fixed sights: Didn't see the point in fixed sights especially on a 4" K-frame gun when M-19's, 15's, 66's and 67's were available with much better adjustable sights. Forced into the matter for a awhile due to circumstances I've come to appreciate them though. No wear on my cover garment,easier to draw from concelment (less snagging), more rugged which means no worries storing gun in off body locations when necessary, and I can even loan it out without worrying about someone fiddling with my sights ;)

While they don't give as crisp a sight picture as some setup's more suited for target work for my practice I really can't see a problem at well past 25 yards on any B-27 target made, that will more than meet my needs. In some ways I think this may have even helped my shooting in that while it's harder to dial in a specific load once it's done it's done. This really actually freed me up a little and made me concentrate on what I should be, shooting form. No wondering about whether that miss was you or if the sights needed tweaking a bit to the right, and it certainly makes you think twice about using range time to try out some new load that might be .4534% better than the current one you got dialed in, much less fiddling around with new powders, bullets etc for reloading trying for an extra 1/4" at 25 yards.


It's not a .357: Basically same size guns in available in .357 is another reason I took a pass, but once again I'm noticing some things I actually like about having "less versatility". First again more time shooting less time fiddling at the range. Being a bit of perfectionist when I shot 357's I wanted my guns sighted to them, when practicing with 38's I wanted the gun sighted for them.

Practicing with loads similar to carry rounds. With my K-frame 357's I always had a an easy shooting load for practice to not stress the gun and a heavier load for real issues. Now I'm pretty much comfortable with a carry load and very similar recoiling and POI practice load. Another time saver is that no changing of my reloading setup between 357, and 38.

Hopefully I was always aware of it before, but honestly I think I work harder at the range because of knowing I don't have any "magnum power" to make up for poor shooting.


It looks like Barney Fife's gun I know Barney actually carried a Colt many times, but you know what I mean. Shouldn't be factor but I think if were all honest most of us do have just a bit of *status factor* wrapped up in what we like to shoot. Good part is the m-10 has little to none! Think of all the stories we hear on every section of this board "Well this guy comes to the range with his(insert English Double, Sig Comp, Les Baer, Jarrett Bean Rifle etc.) and he gets plum blown away by John Doe using a (insert Mosseberg, Winchester 30/30, Ruger P97). When I'm shooting one of these little suckers I feel like I can't loose. If I shoot very well that day I impress some folks, even if I shoot a bit below par my buddies just nod that was very good for what I was using ;)

Anyway, this is my long winded I overlooked a classic speech. Anybody else find themselves in the same boat???
 
Blueduck , your forgiven...now be quiet and delete post. :D

Umm some of us are trying to keep these and similar classics a secret...you ain't helping by apologizing.

Hey George...can't you alter his post or something so folks won't inquire about M-10s...I mean c'mon ...Mum' s the word...
 
Yeah, prices are already way too high for the classic revolvers I like. Can't afford to convert anyone else, they don't make 'em anymore.

Repeat after me: old revolvers = no good.
 
Actually everyones doing a pretty good job of keeping them secret here (George??? ;) )

A title search on M10, turned up 1 post and that one complaining about a problem. Now c'mon guys we can't have that cane we :)
 
Don't feel bad. I still dislike the Model 10. Model 15 is where its at.

;)

Mike
 
Apology?
Blue -
Way back pre-internet when dial in BBS was the only way to discuss stuff via keyboard, some young pup made a comment about how "ugly" the Smith Model 29 was. I spent ~ 1/2 hour off line typeing up a reply. got me thinking:
a.) I didn't design the thing. No reason for me to take it personal.
b.) I like em, he doesn't - maybe he likes Tofu - I sure don't.
c.) It's 99% electronic graffitti anyhow.
d.) Fine, one less Model 29 P&R buyer to get in front of me to drive the prices up.
e.) I'm an obvious appreciator of the finer things in life. He's a barbarian ;).

Ok, seriously.- - I still don't really care for the Model 10. Model 24 either for that matter, or the Model 28, 3" N frames etc, etc, etc. No biggie. Stuff I don't really care for is just the cat's meow for someone else.
 
There are literally millions of Model 10s out there. All different barrel lengths and relatively inexpensive. Enough for everyone:D I`ve had my -6 HB almost 30 years and it ain`t going anywhere.

Mike, I saw 2 Model 15s, one a -3 and a -4, both 4" at the last gunshow and they were priced at $315 each. The guy would deal though.
 
I always wanted one, finaly got one last week and , could see getting more! (if I had the cash.) Was the modle 10 made in a 3 inch version?
 
I always wanted one, finaly got one last week and , could see getting more! (if I had the cash.) Was the modle 10 made in a 3 inch version?

Yes it was. Don't let them tell you otherwise. Apparently there aren't very many though. See this thread .
 
I, too, looked down on the M-10... in fact, I hadn't owned a .38 of any kind ever until September, all nine of my revolvers then being .44 or larger. It started inocently enough...

I shot a friend's J-frame - a new 637 - several months ago - ouch! My intent was to get a 642 for CCW, my .44 Spcl M-296 being a bit big. I couldn't hit anything at 12 yd with his +P's - switched to cowboy reloads - better. Then I looked at an advert for new 2" M-10's with decent grips - had to try one. What I received was the most infectious little revolver I could imagine - an M-10-11 made in January of this year - with rounded butt backstrap-enclosing Uncle Mike's combat grips. Sure, I also bought a 6" M-66-6 at the same time for 'long range' .38 plinking... but that 2" 10 goes to the range all of the time - and has seen a lot more sent downrange already. Pinging plates at 12 yd is fun... as is my demonstrated answer when folks say I can't hit that 12" plate at 110yd... I am no Bob Munden, but that is fun... if you brought plenty of ammo. Yeah, it is like my 6.5" M-24 - it is blued... but it is more fun to shoot - and clean. I want more M-10's! I probably ought to shoot that new M-66...

Stainz
 
Model 10

I have been a Model 10 snob for a long time never owned one until last week.I bought a 21/2" model 10 SB Pined for $179.99 about 97% Blue and tight as a tick.Originaly bought it because it was cheap and could always use an exrta tradeing gun,shot it yesterday,@7yards Double action all in the "A Zone" of a IDPA Target.This may turn out to be a Keeper.No adjustable sights to snag,or get messed up,6 shots,will handle +P,and its cheap.It was a Ex-Police Dept gun and looks to have been carried and lot shot a little.In short I think it may have found a home in the safe.:D
 
Seems like these's a lot of discussion about the M&P's and Model 10s lately. As others have said I really had no use for a fixed sight .38. An M&P was just not on my "list"

There was this 4 screw pre model 10 M&P with a 6" barrel setting at an out of the way shop since the early summer. It caught my eye only because of the condition it was in....minty and it came with its original gold box with the wax paper and cleaning brush. The price didn't seem to high for a near new 45 year old S&W revolver...$350.

I left it set in that shop for months certain someone would buy it. No one did. Then my buddy Litlman picked up his last week and started raving about it. I gave up and bought the revolver. Here's a couple of pics.
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I'm so glad I wised up and bought this one. The only mark on it is a turn line. If it has been fired there can't be more than six rounds through it. The fit, finish, and workmanship are fantastic especially considering that this was one of S&W's high volume utility revolvers.

Now I have to find a nice 4" shooter!

Randy
 
I'd take an M-15... if it was in .357. That's a lot of revovler for .38...
Hmmm....
An X Frame .38 Special... snubnose...
Actually... that might work.
 
I have only recently been bitten by the revolver bug, but I always figured the M&P as the classic American sixgun, so my first buy in the field was a M10-5 that I have posted about here before. I certainly didn't expect much when I ordered it but was I wrong! It has a great trigger, finish, feels good in the hand and is more accurate than I'll ever be able to shoot it. Call me a new convert if you will, but I see another M10 or maybe M13 in my battery in the near future.
 
I have had a Model 10 4" heavy barrel, matte finish sitting in my safe for years that wasn't even mine. A friend left it in my trunk years ago. Every couple years he would ask me if I still had it, I said yes, he said OK and that was that (he injured his back to the point that he basically quit shooting altogether). However, I seldom shot it, maybe once every couple years. Then I stumbled across a 4" pencil barrel stamped RHKP on the backstrp. It had been reblued and they did a pretty decent job on it. I think they wanted something like $75 for it and it followed me home. Prior to buying this gun I almost never fired a .38 Special round. I owned a whole pile of .357 guns and only use .357s in them. I figured this Model 10 would be the perfect thing to utilize all the .38 Speical brass I had. It turned out that the action was magnificant and the fixed sights shoot right to my point of aim with my faviorite .38 load (3.5 grains of Bullseye, 158 grain cast SWC). It has quickly become one of my faviorite range guns. Since then I bought a second heavy barrel Model 10, an 8 3/8" Model 14, two really old Smith .38s that I believe are Military & Police 1905s (?), a Model 36, and two days ago bought a really nice 2" barreled Model 15. I have also owned a Model 60 in .38 Special for years. I have become a .38 Special junkie. I can't believe how much .38 ammo I am going through. It isn't unusual for me to fire 300 or more rounds in a session; sometimes 1000 rounds a month which is a lot for me to shoot in one caliber.
I went out yesterday with a buddy of mine and his wife. She wanted to learn to shoot and eventually get her CCW. I figured that a .38 Special revolver would be perfect for her, but I want her to decide for herself. I certainly have enough stuff for her to try a representitive sample of what is out there. For our first trip to the range, I took my 4" pencil barrel Model 10, a heavy barrel Model 10, my new Model 15, and a Military & Police Hand Ejector. She tried them all and absolutely loved the Model 10 pencil barrel. She fired several hundred rounds through it and told her husband that she has to have one. I was amazed at how well she shot. I put up an IDPA silhouette at about 3-5 yards away. She proceeded to fire a group that had all shots touching. And she only fired a handgun once or twice before (a couple shots). After getting back to their house we had some lunch. She turned to me at the table and said, that was a lot of fun-we have to start doing this on a regular basis.
I had a good time also and today have both tumblers working overtime to clean all the brass we generated yesterday. Thank God I have a Dillon loader to keep these things fed.
 
I don't know how anyone can hate on a gun that works. If it works, I want it. Granted, there are some that I like more than others. But any of you guys got a firearm that you look down on, and it functions reliably, I'll give it a good home free of charge.
 
BluesBear, thanks for the heads up on the 3 inch m-10 for sale in the classifieds. It is a nice one. However I am currently tapped out of "gun" money. I must start stashing it away again. Is there any cure for ......... "Oldsmithandwessonitis"? My current prescription plan does not cover the known treatment (buy more) for it!!!!! Randy, how much you want for that? Oh, I am doing it again...........
 
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