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I am running this idea around. Since i have a 444 marlin i would like to get something in 225 winchester since they were both introduced in '64. Would it be cheaper to look for a rifle already in 225? Or purchase a savage/stevens bolt action in 30-30 and then have a barrel made for it?
I have a friend who has all the nut wrenches.
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If you have the resources, I think that would be really cool. Price aside, I like guns that are unique. Gives them personality.
 
Any savage in a cartridge based off the 308 would get you there. I bet a 22-250 or 243 with a burned out barrel would be cheap. I have a soft spot for the Stevens200.
 
Interesting you would mention the .225 Win. because it has long been one of my favorite varmint cartridges. I've had three of them in Win. M-70 (Post '64 of course) and a custom build on a Miller single shot action. Two of the M-70's were delightfully accurate, even with the Winchester factory ammo of that era. The third one is the 1964 issue varmint model, still new/unfired, shown here. The .225 is a great choice for anyone looking for something different and interesting, and they are often offered for sale on websites. Finding ammo and cases can be a problem unless you know where to look.. DSC_0168.JPG DSC_0173.JPG DSC_0179.JPG
 
It's a good suggestion concerning home work for factory cartridges. Also, if you reload see if there are any cases available. I remember in the day the M70 rifles had a great reputation for accuracy. It's an old story how the 225 was eclipsed by the newly offered 22-250..
 
Dad had one of the 225 model 70s in the early 70s. Was quite a shooter. I remember turkey hunting in the Shawnee forest a few years later and an old timey hardware store had about thirty or more boxes of the ammo on a shelf.
 
Well, when looking at cartridge dimensions, i notice that the 225 and the 22-250 are really really close.
Might be easier on the wallet to go with a "rimless 225"?
 
If you look at these two cases side by side the 225 appears to be the smaller. Back in the day much was made of 225 parent cartridge being the 219 Donaldson Wasp. The Wasp parent case is the 219 Zipper. I found a few rounds of factory 225 brass here several days ago. The 225 is a nice looking cartridge. In the age of the horse power race the 225 lost out.
 
The Savage 340 was made in 225 Win. I believe it was probably the lowest volume chambering however, so they go for a premium, but still about a third to half the price of a Win Model 70. The Savage 340 has a certain utilitarian charm and, just as Miller is the Champagne of Beers, so too the 340 is the Holland & Holland Royal of cheap mid-Century working class bolt action rifles ;-)
 
Finding ammo and cases can be a problem unless you know where to look..

I just did a cursory search and couldn't find any brass for sale. It does look like Nosler still makes loaded rounds, but it may be in limited runs. The fact that they make the ammo means they may also offer brass at times as well.
 
If you look at these two cases side by side the 225 appears to be the smaller. Back in the day much was made of 225 parent cartridge being the 219 Donaldson Wasp. The Wasp parent case is the 219 Zipper. I found a few rounds of factory 225 brass here several days ago. The 225 is a nice looking cartridge. In the age of the horse power race the 225 lost out.
It's fairly easy to understand why the .219 Wasp/.229 Zipper could be mistakenly assumed to be the parent case of the .225 Win. As they are rimmed cases with similar profiles. However, the Zipper ( The parent case was the .25-35/.30-30 Win.) has a rim diameter of .506" whereas the .225 has rim dia. of .473." Also, the older Winchester calibers headspace on the rim, whereas the .225 headspaces on the shoulder and was primarily designed for bolt action rifles. I once discussed this peculiar design with an old time Winchester engineer and he allowed it was a nostalgic recognition of the .220 Swift, or old Zipper, which were also rimmed, and hopefully recapture some of the old magic. But if there had been magic, it wasn't strong enough to overcome Remington's sparkling introduction of their "new" .22-250 which overwhelmingly benefited from over 30 years of advance billing as a very successful wildcat.
As mentioned in an earlier post on this thread, I think rimmed cartridges and single shot rifles go together like strawberries and cream, like this .225 Win. built on a Miller action with some nice trimmings... DSC_0180.JPG DSC_0184.JPG DSC_0189.JPG
 
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225: Thanks for the help. Also, the Swift had a unjustified bad rep and the Wasp did not. All this is a trip. The 22-250 according to the old timers was originally know as 22 WOS-as in Watkins Original Swift. That cartridge was turned down by Winchester in favor of the Swift. Wonder if there was ever a Contender made as a 225. We were told during the ice age that the rim on the 6mm Lee Navy was turned down to fit into a 30-06 bolt face @ 473.
 
Don’t turn your nose up at a Winchester M70 in .225.
In spring of 1987, I went bear hunting in New Brunswick, Canada, with my older brother, who was stationed at Loring AFB, Caribou, ME.

A coworker of his brought over his M70 that had belonged to his FIL, who got it from his uncle who lived in Montana. He claimed that the rifle barrel was “supposedly shot-out”. He also had a quantity of both factory 55gr ammo, and some handloads, well labeled with IMR4320 and Sierra 50gr Spt’s.

Looking through the bore I wasn’t convinced it was shot out, but was heavily fouled. My brother concurred, and the coworker left the rifle with us to “check it out”. Over several days, we repeatedly swabbed the bore with Shooters Choice solvent until they quit coming out blue/green.
We took it to a range and benched it. Factory ammo shot under 1”-5shot groups (even I was surprised), but handloads (under published Max) shot 1/2” 5-Shot groups, and not just once! We were astonished. His buddy reported back that his uncle said it never shot that good before, ever. It wore a period correct Redfield 4-12x scope with tri-plex reticle.
We could have bought it off of him before cleaning for $200.00. Actually a “fair” price at the time.... Only IF !
And, BTW, it’s the only .225win I’ve ever seen “in the flesh”.
It amazes me how many fabulous rifle/cartridges never got off the ground due to tepid support from the manufacturers.
Ie; the .308ME and .338ME. I’ve never seen but a few .308 ME’s and those were the ones Academy Sports had. The only .338’s were the two I have I got off the Internet. Nerver saw a box of .338ME ammo for sale, except on-line. Going hunting in am with my recently aquired.308MXLR. Already banged one deer with it this year...
 
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I was introduced to the cartridge last spring, when my son brought his to camp for Sealing.

I had never heard of the cartridge before, but I found him several box's of shells for it when I went to Anchorage a few weeks after.
I was mildly amused at my ignorance, but theres always something to learn, aint there? :D
 
I don't do photos. It would be good to be able to see the difference in size of the cartridges. The 225 caliber Model 70's had a good reputation for accuracy. On looking at the figures it would appear that 22-250 did not run all over the 225. People did not see it this way in the day. The rim on both 225 and Swift was there to fit into a 30-06 sized bolt face. The post 64 Model 70 was not well received. The impressed checkering and shiny finish was a traumatic change from the Pre-64's. These rifles would be in the dealer's rack with removable yellow plastic wedge in the forearm. The notion at the time the wedge was to show the free floating barrel. Right, the 225 would be a great round in a single shot rifle.
 
Well, after some serious consideration, i am going to pass on the 225 win and 22-250.
I even looked at the triple deuce since they come in the savage/stevens 340/325. (Love those rifles!)
I may decide on a duel purpose round such as the .25-06(which is a cartridge i have always wanted a rifle in). Ammo little easier to obtain. Would be Coyotes and deer mainly.
 
Shaw and others made barrels that are pre-chambered and can be fitted to Savage actions. We put a Bob together using and Adams & Bennet barrel that works great. There is material on Youtube on these barrel swaps.
 
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