If you are a litterer....STOP!!

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Somethin y'all may wanna check into is..in our state, Pa. there is a program against litterpigs. If you see someone litter you can contact the DOT with thier license plate number and the state will send them a litter bag for thier car.
It's a 'nice' way of sayin please stop litterin our state.
Persoanly tho, i think the state should send a garbage truck to thier house and dump it in thier front yard.

There is no excuse to be litterin anywhere anytime for any reason PERIOD !!!!
 
Great thread! I am an old Army surplus Viet Nam vet who is also a fervent supporter of both the Second Amendment and the Sierra Club. I respectfully submit that perhaps we can build more bridges between those two causes? Both the Sierra Club (and its clones) and the supporters of the Second Amendment should treasure our environment. Don't we all like a walk in the woods, even when it is not hunting season? Won't we get a lot more done if we can find common ground and work together?
 
I am an Iraq vet, ride dirt bikes, shoot guns, drive an F150 and count myself as an enviromentalist.

I love the outdoors. I love my kids and it is already obvious that they won't have what I had growing up.

I hate litter. I hate people who think it's awesome to "stick it to the greenies" by leaving all of the lights on at work over night. Or refusing to recycle. Some A-hole I used to work with used to take our blue paper recycling bin and hide it in a closet, because global warming is a myth, that's why...

Regardless of any of that, pollution will never be a GOOD thing So why not grow up and take a few minutes extra a day to do something right? Just common sense and a tiny, miniscule amount of inconvenience, that's all it takes.

I like this thread. 4/4 Stars.
 
Living in Chicagoland, there is no where you can just go out and shoot.

You have to shoot at a range or not shoot.

One of the tactics of anti-gunners is to claim that a range is having a negative environmental impact. I guess it depends on what state you live in but I think if you leave your area looking like a dump, you're handing anti-gunners a golden opportunity to shut down shooting in that area.
 
I did some shooting in the desert a few weeks ago. While I'll admit I wasn't able to find all my casings, I did carry out more casings than I shot, along with the remains of my targets. The ammo I shot was steel-cased, too, so eventually it'll rust into oblivion.
 
That's perfectly reasonable. We might not be perfect, but there's an obvious difference in attitude between someone who finds a shell casing out in the woods, and someone who finds 300 empty 12 ga hulls in a pile. All we can do is make an effort.

I just found a new (to me) spot to shoot, for you Utah guys, it's the rock quarry in the hill west of Grantsville. It's fantastic, you can do whatever you want there, but there is so much debris, you can't walk without stepping on stuff. We went and shot, got our shattered milk jugs, all of the brass we could find, took another couple of handfuls of empty shotshells and felt stupid.
 
I'm as far right as Jesse Helms, but all my trucks have a fifteen gallon steel trash can strapped in back somewhere. I pick up my own and others' range trash, (and roadside trash as a form of relaxation). God's word about 'stewardship of the land" isn't an admonition. It's good therapy advice.
 
As shooters should we be organizing cleanup days to clear out the legacy trash of the trashy shooters at our favorite ranges?
 
Anyone noticed the price of scrap metal lately?

What with the economy and all we got a bunch of unemployed and retired people making a good pile of cash picking up brass and refridgerators and all manner of scrap metal around the countryside.

Younger ones dumpster dive small and large venues for aluminum soda cans.

A not so young entrepeneur collects plastic soda bottles in our non deposit state and once a month goes to a deposit state and collects cash.
My bro-in-law and I spend cleanup days at our range, and we find as much scrap metal as we can. Cashing in on random chunks of metal we've found has helped buy supplies for the range. It also gives that metal a chance at being useful again, instead of rusting out at our range and being an eyesore.
 
I did some shooting in the desert a few weeks ago. While I'll admit I wasn't able to find all my casings, I did carry out more casings than I shot, along with the remains of my targets. The ammo I shot was steel-cased, too, so eventually it'll rust into oblivion.

Not necessarily. You can find rusty tin cans in waste dumps at the edges of old mines that are at least 100 years old.

Dan
 
Not necessarily. You can find rusty tin cans in waste dumps at the edges of old mines that are at least 100 years old.

Dan
That's tin, not steel.

It takes steel cases a couple of years (3-5 my guess) to rust completely through. When I find some at my shooting hole that I shot 5 or more years ago it usually crumbles when I try to pick it up.
 
Can't remember where I heard it in my (somewhat) mis-spent youth, but goes kinda like this:

"Leave nothing but your footprints, take nothing but your memories and your trash"
 
Yeah. Good thread.

I remember the first time i wandered in the hilly forest of KY Appalachia .....
everything was so beautiful .. except for the millions of aging shotshells
i was stepping on.
 
OP and I have had conversations about this in the past. No more weekend college for me so that I can participate in the Utah Shooting Sport Council's range cleanup days. I do maintenance at an apartment complex, and when I have to replace a toilet, I'll stick in the back of the truck and we'll shoot it in the desert. I also bring 5 gal buckets and some shovels so we clean it up. If a person is responsible enough to own and use a firearm, they should be responsible enough to clean up their crap. Simple as that.
 
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