What I'm really looking for here are opinions for the all time best all around North American hunting cartridge. I'm sure my personal opinion will differ from most, but I'm going to have to choose the 270. Flatter trajectory than the 30's, very manageable weight, and recoil. 90gr 3400fps for varmint size, 130gr 3150fps deer size game, and 180gr 2400fps for the big boys. Lets here what you hunters have to say. Also take into account that shots will not always be 100 yds in so that 30-30 has to go.