Illinois members-Call your state reps NOW!

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Are phone calls actually recorded as received or a "yeah, right, OK" thing?

The legislative staffs keep track of the phone calls both pro and con. Call, fax, email, call some more...be polite.
 
10-4.
I sense we are under attack as never before in almost every state and that these nutjobs will not quit until mission accomplished.
 
I've been following this along with reading both Bills. My take after watching politics in Chicago and Illinois is that the reason there were two separate Bills is so the compromise will be to drop the AW ban in favor of the magazine ban. Knowing if both were combined there would be the fear that both could be defeated in one vote, but separately a compromised can be acted on.

This all may be tied in with CCW down the road. One never knows what the pols have up their sleeves.

I agree that the SC never said what type of weapon you are entitled to. I'd hate to have the SC decide on the Constitutionality of the type of weapon that is applicable to the 2nd Amendment.
 
Calls work IF we swamp them. When the voicemail is full and the secretary is exhausted, they get the message. We have to show OVERWHELMING opposition. Remember that most of these legislators (both sides) know very little about guns. What they do know about is how to gauge how pissed off their constituents are based on the number of phone calls they get. They talk to each other. Downstate dems know that if it passes, it will be hung around their neck (rightly, they put Madigan and Cullerton into power every Session), so they stick together to keep it from getting passed. If they don't hear that message loud and clear, that is when Emmanuel and all the other power brokers can peel them off.
 
My take from reading these bills is that they seem to be written in anger. It's almost like they are flipping off the USSC and the 7th circuit for the losses they have had. A legislative temper tantrum so to speak. It would almost be comical if it wasn't so serious.

Keep calling!!
 
That is what gets me, Jeff. I was worried about the Senate bills, but am SLIGHTLY less worried about them getting traction in the house, mainly because the House has already killed MUCH less onerous bills than this, in this GA. Which begs the question, why? The cabal that runs IL NEVER does something without a purpose. If they wanted new gun restrictions, they would be able to pass something, but they have to know that something as outlandish as the bills proposed this week are unlikely to make it. So what are they doing? I'm guessing they are probing for weaknesses to try and figure out who they need to work on to get their may-issue bill passed, as well as gauging the organization and motivation of pro-2A forces. More of a reason for an overwhelming show of force by our side.
 
My take from reading these bills is that they seem to be written in anger. It's almost like they are flipping off the USSC and the 7th circuit for the losses they have had. A legislative temper tantrum so to speak. It would almost be comical if it wasn't so serious.

Keep calling!!

I concur.

I further believe they are doing this as an act of intimidation, trying to gain a "chip" in the game for the upcoming CCW battle that's front and center before next summer.
 
SB2899 to be voted on SUNDAY Jan. 6th. which again in the same week reintroduces weapons ban. Voicemail boxes full this morning. I might be reposting, but here is an email address list.

Rep. Elaine Nekritz | [email protected]
Rep. John Bradley| [email protected]
Rep. Jil Tracy | [email protected]
Rep. Michael Connelly | [email protected]
Rep. Dwight Kay | [email protected]
Rep. Lou Lang | [email protected]
Rep. Sid Mathias | [email protected]
Rep. André M. Thapedi | [email protected]
Rep. Arthur Turner | [email protected] (email delivery failure, could be full)
Rep. Ann Williams | [email protected]
Rep. Michael Zalewski | [email protected]
 
I have sent at least a dozen emails, faxes and notified my friends to do the same. Bump here to keep the thread active and at the top. Folks, the fight is here, let's keep working to protect our constitutional rights!
 
I live out of state, but I'll go ahead and see if I can contact some of these folks. Maybe I could threaten not to spend any money in IL or do business with IL companies.
 
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My state rep is my personal friend. We went to grade school together, and our kids go to school together now.

He told me last nite that he sent out over 7000 postcards in response to messages left on his office phone.

Ill state rep David Reis.
Pro 2a
 
Here is what I have typed up to send to Illinois state reps. I'd like to get some input and see your suggestions on what could/should be changed, added, condensed, or eliminated.


Dear Representative -------------,

Like millions of other Americans, I was horrified and saddened by the events in Newtown, Connecticut. I know that legislators all over the country are under pressure to do something to prevent these shootings from happening in the future. We would all like a workable solution to be found, but Illinois gun owners also want their rights to be respected and left alone. What I have seen in the last couple of weeks from Obama, certain people in Congress, the media, the anti-gun lobby, and lawmakers at the state level is perhaps some of the most disgusting and reprehensible political opportunism and exploitation of innocent deaths in recent memory. What I am seeing right now is more than just a knee-jerk, emotional reaction. I’m seeing an organized and concerted effort to capitalize on a horrible tragedy for the purpose of pushing through an agenda to ban guns and destroy another of our already dwindling rights at both the federal and state levels.

I'm contacting you today to inform you that Illinois gun owners are paying very close attention to the anti-gun bills that have been introduced in the state legislature. These outlandish and unconstitutional assaults on the peoples’ right to keep and bear arms are not appreciated. Also, do not think that gun owners in other states will turn a blind eye and quietly allow the evisceration of gun rights in Illinois. All gun owners know that a successful assault on the rights of Americans anywhere will embolden those who would attack them everywhere. I understand that you are being pressured to do something that would help prevent incidents like Newtown from occurring again, but as a gun owner, I cannot and will not allow the destruction of my Second Amendment rights.

In the several bills that have been introduced, there are proposed restrictions that are so broad and so sweeping that they would ban virtually all lawfully owned firearms in the state. They also propose measures that would criminalize every lawful gun owner, shut down shooting ranges, and make gun ownership so expensive and so restrictive that it would be impracticable. Of course, none of these bills would do anything to affect firearms illegally possessed by convicted felons and madmen, or stop their use in the commission of crime and mass murder. The slew of legislation that has been introduced seeks to label virtually every lawfully owned and possessed rifle, shotgun, and pistol as an "assault weapon". Aside from the fact that the term "assault weapon" is a vague blanket term with no technical meaning, the firearms that would be banned are, in fact, used for a variety of lawful purposes including defense of one's home and family, as is the intent of the Second Amendment. It has absolutely nothing to do with hunting and cannot be defined within the context of "sporting purposes", although firearms such as the AR-15 are in fact widely used for hunting, bench-rest match shooting, and three gun competitions. As I mentioned before, gun owners are keenly aware that the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut is being exploited by the media and politicians to destroy their rights and to ultimately empower an already dangerously powerful federal government and Cook County political juggernaut. Illinoisans and those outside the state are standing together and paying attention to how you vote on all anti-gun bills and amendments such as the "assault weapon" amendment to SB 2899. Should any of these bills make it to the governor's desk and pass, there will be political ramifications, and gun owners from out of state will make it a point to avoid spending money in Illinois or conducting transactions with Illinois businesses.

Do not believe that the arguments of "reasonable restrictions" or "common sense laws" hold any water. These are feeble and transparent attempts to reassure owners of certain types of guns that what they own will be left alone by power-drunk officials who ultimately want them all banned and confiscated. All of the leading proponents of gun control in the United States, Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Lautenberg, McCarthy, Mayor Bloomberg, Sarah Brady, et. al. have all publicly stated this desire. We do not believe that the case is any different at the state level. We know that what is being discussed now is an incrementalist approach to total disarmament of all American citizens, just as in the UK and Australia. In those countries, politicians sought to ban handguns and semiautomatic long arms while hoping to curb opposition by assuring hunters and target shooters that they could keep their big game rifles or trap shooting shotguns. The ruse worked, and today, all firearms are banned in those countries except for only a very few people who have the time, money, and persistence to go through an extremely complex and restrictive process to acquire any kind of firearm. It is a process which is deliberately designed in such a way as to discourage anyone who wishes to legally have a gun. Again, criminals in those countries do not obey the law, and they have experienced rising violent crime rates despite the gun bans. American gun owners have not deluded themselves into believing they are any less vulnerable than their counterparts in Australia, the UK, and other countries that have been so disarmed, but the same rhetoric will not work so easily on us. Today, the discussion focuses on scary looking semi-automatic guns that resemble those used in military applications. Tomorrow it will be all types of handguns, bolt action big game rifles (which will undoubtedly be demonized as "sniper rifles"), and then it will be everything else.

As gun owners, regardless of what types of firearms we own and what we use them for, we are all united to ensure that we will continue to own and use those firearms lawfully and that the Second Amendment will be respected. My most sincere suggestion to you, the governor, and all others in the state legislature is that if you do have a genuine desire to prevent Newtown-like tragedies rather than simply disarm the law-abiding, then you should direct your efforts toward the availability of mental health services. Additionally, reduction of the crime problem in Chicago and elsewhere should focus on unemployment and better education. It is ridiculous to believe that you can stop or reduce crime by turning the law-abiding into criminals, or to punish thousands of Illinois gun owners for the actions of a few deranged individuals. We demand that you oppose any and all anti-gun proposals in the state legislature.

As has been stated before, Illinois gun owners are not going to tolerate the violation of their gun rights, and are being joined in the fight by gun owners in other states. We will donate money to pro-gun organizations such as the ISRA to help ensure that anyone who votes against gun rights is unseated in the upcoming election.



Sincerely,
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Agreed. You're not writing a press release or opinion piece for the local newspaper.

Your objective is to convey a position, as a constituent.

Try;

"As a constituent in your district, I respectfully request you vote NO on all legislation which would further restrict firearms, firearms accessories, or firearms ownership in our State. I ask for your specific support by voting NO on the following bills: XX,XX,XX.

Respectfully yours,

xxxx
"
 
Try this. "I am a firearm owner. I am asking you to vote "No" on SB-2899." Then close with "Thank You" and your name. If you feel the need to explain your reasons use bullet points and leave any political criticism out.

If these reps get their emails on their phone, they are not wanting to be scrolling reading small print. Short, simple and to the point works well.
 
ILLINOIS folks, there is an URGENT update to the sneaky stuff in Springfield today...

*UPDATE* from posting on Illinoiscarry.com about an hour ago: (It was all caps in the posting, sorry...)

"WE HAVE RAISED SUCH A RUCKUS WITH 2899 THAT THEY ARE WRITING AMENDMENT #2 BEFORE THE COMMITTEE MEETING

WATCH FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHICH COMMITTEE BUT I BELIEVE IT WILL BE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE 1 "
 
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All anti-gun legislature in IL has been defeated at this time.

Rest for now.

They'll try again this Spring.
 
No, not a time for rest. This is a time to prepare for the next assault.
A HUGE Thank You to THR for getting the word out. If not for this thread I would have no idea of what they just tried to pull off.
 
I think The Land of Obama was just a litmus test for Biden's committee to test the water to see what they could get passed. Keep calling and writing to both state and federal Congress members. They aren't "critters" either. Referring to them as such makes us appear backwards if you know what I mean. You won't be taken seriously that way.


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I think The Land of Obama was just a litmus test for Biden's committee to test the water to see what they could get passed. Keep calling and writing to both state and federal Congress members. They aren't "critters" either. Referring to them as such makes us appear backwards if you know what I mean. You won't be taken seriously that way.


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Illinois' anti-gun agenda has been legendary for some time. It's just a time to attempt some shenanigans, and they did, and our calls and lobbying efforts prevented the nonsense.

I doubt this has anything to do with Biden, or any kind of litmus test. If Biden is relying on Illinois as a litmus test, he's already failed. He's not that dumb...unfortunately.
 
No, it's a pretty safe bet this had nothing to do with Biden, this was just Tyrant Madigan and Terrorist Quinn flexing their muscles with the rest of the Chicago stooges.
 
They threw the the most outrageous thing out there to gage public opinion. That seems like a litmus test to me. Yeah, probably nothing to do with Biden's group but I bet they were paying close attention.


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I called Sen Mulroe (D) and Rep McAuliffe (R) today to again ask them to vote no on any gun control legislation coming before the assembly this year.
 
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