Instrumental violence vs. Expressive violence

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Elmer Fudd said: BullfrogKen, I have read a couple posts where you and perhaps Jeff refer to different types of violence by name. Could you elaborate on this hierarchy for those of us unfamiliar with the concept? Thanks!

Started a new thread to answer a question raised in another. Its safest to just give the robber what he wants. . . Forseeing some debate, I didn't want to highjack it.


Instrumental violence is that violence used as a means to an end. The most commonly cited example is that of a mugging. The violence offered is intended, and used, to gain compliance with the VCA's demands. It can be thought of in the saying, "Its just business".

Contrasted with Expressive violence, which is violence used simply for the goal of inflicting harm, and usually contains a level of personal "rights" being wronged, retaliation, or other personal motive that precipitated the violence. The violence offered is intended to cause harm to satisfy the VCA's psyche in some form. A workplace shooting, domestic "violence", and barfights are common examples of expressive violence.


The value in recognizing the difference between the two helps the Practitioner understand the motives of the VCA(s), and what solutions may work, and what may not.
 
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VCA == Violent Criminal Actor

No idea who makes up these terms.
 
The acronym predates me. I can't tell you who came up with it; it simply promulgates among the community the way all knowledge does, and we use it.


And yes, VCA is the acronym for Violent Criminal Actor. That is what he is. What would you call him?

That looks like an interesting book, QBG. It appears more political, and covers the discussions of groups and nations warring one another. I was speaking to violence performed on an individual level. A good book on this subject is Samenow's Inside the Criminal Mind.


Back to the topic. We may find ourselves presented with instrumental violence, and by our actions move the VCA into expressive violence. I suggest it is also good to study the behaviors we might exhibit that would move him out of instrumental and into expressive. As the desire to express violence is generally satisfied only once the VCA has delivered sufficient harm to his victim, or he is incapacitated, but he is very unlikely to be deterred. Again, because this form of violence has some element of personal involvement for the actor. Instrumental violence commonly ceases when the VCA gets what it is he used violence to obtain.


I suspect you would find that the act of disrespecting a robber during the confrontation got most victims hurt more severely, or killed, than some senseless act of violence the media often attributes to those encounters. Sometimes we aren't able to find out many details, but the ones that are able to speak about it can often cite to investigators some act they committed, followed by, "then he shot/stabbed me". And sometimes . . . the VCA's themselves confess. The details of those stories don't make the news headlines, but they can be found in investigator's notes and courtroom transcripts. Rarely, a prison interview will reveal those details and the public gets to see it, but frank interviews on camera are rare.
 
I suspect you would find that the act of disrespecting a robber during the confrontation got most victims hurt more severely, or killed, than some senseless act of violence the media often attributes to those encounters. Sometimes we aren't able to find out many details, but the ones that are able to speak about it can often cite to investigators some act they committed, followed by, "then he shot/stabbed me". And sometimes . . . the VCA's themselves confess. The details of those stories don't make the news headlines, but they can be found in investigator's notes and courtroom transcripts. Rarely, a prison interview will reveal those details and the public gets to see it, but frank interviews on camera are rare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_duFresne

Perfect example of the above.
 
BullfrogKen, what precisely do you mean by "disrespecting a robber"? Genuinely disrespectful statements, like "What're you gonna do, shoot me, you moron?" :eek:, or something fairly innocuous that is perceived as "disrespect"? 'Cause a lot of these guys have an inflated sense of self...
 
From the article mdao linked to:

One witness testified that duFresne confronted Fleming (VCA - emphasis added), pushing him. Another witness testified that it was Fleming, rather, who shoved duFresne, and that she never touched him. There was a consensus among witnesses that duFresne shouted "What are you still doing here? You got what you wanted. What are you going to do now, shoot us?" Fleming fired once at point blank range, the bullet striking duFresne in the chest and exiting through her back.

Yeah, that would be one of the rather extreme examples of what someone might do to get himself, or this case herself, shot.


Oana, let me suggest you think of it in these terms . . .

Consider what it is you do for a living, or have an avid interest in for recreation. I would assume you, or anyone else who has a career of some sort, has attained a level of proficiency and expertise in that subject. How might you feel, after having gained this expertise, when a novice or neophyte approaches you and tells you are wrong, or suggests you don't know what you're doing?

Let's say its cars. You know how to install a good sound system. You've done it dozens, maybe hundreds of times, and a fellow approaches you asking you to help do the same for him. He wants to save money on the labor, so he's wants to help you do it. You show him how to install the speakers, but instead he wants to do it in a fashion you know won't fit, or work properly. He of course really wants it his way. You tell him you know what you're doing, he doesn't, and that its just not possible. He appears to relent, and you work on the radio and CD player, while he gets to work on those speakers.

After you're done, you go check on him. He did it his way anyway, and he's really botched it up. He's put the holes exactly where you told him not to, damaged the speakers trying to force them in, and now he wants you to help solve his problem. How would you feel about that? And why? This person ignored you, and disrespected you.


Disrespect doesn't have to be as overt as a white man walking into an urban night club uttering racial slurs, or telling a thief, "What are you gonna do now, shoot me?" It can be as simple as appearing to not comply fast enough with an armed criminal's demands. If the VCA thinks you might be moving too slowly, he may interpret it that you don't think he's serious, and use a higher level of force to impress you he is, just as in that same article mdao linked to:

Rudy Fleming demanded money. Sparks pushed his way past, at which point Fleming swung with both hands, striking him across his left temple with a Taurus .357 magnum, which he had been holding pointed downward at the sidewalk. According to Sparks neither he nor anyone else in the group had realized that Fleming had a gun. Another robber, Servisio Simmons, reportedly said, "It doesn't have to be like this. My friend's buggin'. We just want the money."

That was actually a very good article to illustrate this concept. At this point, the violence was still instrumental.

It became expressive when duFresne made her statement.


Innoculous acts include simply ignoring the demand to comply with a criminal's demands immediately. The gun implies, do what I say, NOW, or else. Noncompliance usually gets interpreted by the VCA to mean you're testing him to see what that "or else" is, whether the victim intends that or not. At some point, and it is independant and different to every and any encounter, the VCA many decide you've tested him too far. Now, instead of simply using force to make you submit to his demands, he's decided you've disrespected him in his ability and proficiency as an armed robber. He feels he's in charge, you aren't, and now he's going to damn well prove it to you. He's become enraged, and now its become personal to him.


The "cute tricks" like tossing a wallet on the ground, or over his shoulder, or feigning a distraction that doesn't exist often are interpreted as disrespect by the VCA. Rest assured this is likely not his first time doing this, and he's probably not doing this without accomplances. Those tricks will enrage the VCA, and move him from instrumental into expressive violence.


Instrumental violence generally gets resolved once demands are met. Expressive violence get resolved when the VCA's psyche is satisfied. Obviously both can be resolved by greater resistance from the victim, either persuading him the attempt won't be successful, or by incapacitating the VCA. Sometimes that's the only chance the victim has for survival, and "if that's whatcha gotta do, then that's whatcha gotta do." Whether you're willing to move an encounter that might resolve without a fight into it is everyone's personal decision to make. Studies on this topic should also include evaluating actions you might take that will move the encounter into that fight without you intending it.


And yes, you're right, the criminal's psyche is much more easily offended than the law abiding. With that in mind, consider in your plan on how you will evaluate which type of violence you are offered, and how you plan to respond to it.
 
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