Is there a manufacturer making a Home Defense 410 Gauge Shotgun

[Armored farmer]

FYI
Henry makes a beautiful lever action .410.
My 84yo dad just brought one home today.
Nice wood, bead sight, beautiful rifleuuuh...i mean shotgun.

 

[HoploDad]

SxS coach gun in .410 or one in 20 g (a Col. Cooper favorite) with a recoil pad. Add a shell holder on the butt stock. Short barrels, easy pointing. External hammers are the "safety". Cock. Cock. Boom. Boom.

That Rossi (above) is a nice option if you can find one; they're no longer in production, right? They came in wood stocked versions as well.

If she's new to shooting, will she get a gun safe? Storing a loaded gun under the bed is not a great idea if a crook gets home before she does.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

I like the idea of that Rossi for HD as well. My local Wal-Mart had one a couple of years ago and I missed the opportunity to get one. (I wonder if they still have one in the back? Have to ask one day) Being a big revolver the manual of arms is simple, no chance of short stroking for a new shooter.

I also like double barreled shotguns for HD.

 

[Keith G]

I think a 410 is a great choice for her. I have a couple myself. Too many people want something that will take down an elephant for home protection, but the reality is that if someone breaks into her house to steal some stuff, a blast in the chest from a 410 is likely going to make them rethink just how bad they want that tv/jewelery/etc. Best to have a gun she is comfortable and confident with than one she is scared of and that is liable to knock her down when she pulls the trigger. This is good ammo to load it up with.

 

[RedlegRick]

I've been considering getting something similar for my SO as well. She's of slight stature and recoil shy too. Really good with the Marlin 795 I got her, but even a 9mm in a Sub 2000 was a bit too much. Perhaps not the Shockwave, but the 500/Maverick youth model with the short barrel and stock, but I wanted to borrow one first and have her try it out before committing to a purchase.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

I've been considering getting something similar for my SO as well. She's of slight stature and recoil shy too. Really good with the Marlin 795 I got her, but even a 9mm in a Sub 2000 was a bit too much. Perhaps not the Shockwave, but the 500/Maverick youth model with the short barrel and stock, but I wanted to borrow one first and have her try it out before committing to a purchase.

The Henry in 410 might be a good choice. Its heavy enough to absorb a lot of the recoil

 

[Browning]

I ended up getting my 75 year old mom a Ruger 10/22. My stepfather kept getting her double action pistols and revolvers. On some of them when we took her to the range she didn't have the hand strength to even squeeze the trigger. When she did on others it was like pulling a hand weight for her.

With that 10/22 all she has to do is aim, flick off the safety and squeeze the trigger. It was also night and day as far as hitting something vs the handguns. So I don't see anything wrong with a .410 shotgun just so long as it's loaded with buckshot. It's certainly going to create a larger than a bunch of .22 CCI's.

Mossberg would get my vote. There's the 500 'Home Defense' (the 18" model w/the vertical foregrip), the 500 'Persuader' and then the regular Model 500 in .410 with a 24 or 26" inch (I don't remember which it is) hunting type barrel. My. niece has one of those. I'd probably go with the HD or the Persuader personally.

How are they going to store it though? Are there kids or grandkids around? Will she keep it chamber empty with the safety off and then rack it? Will she practice all that repeatedly? That's what I had to do with my mom and that Ruger 10/22 over and over again. If she doesn't know how to operate it well when the time comes it's just a false sense of security.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

I ended up getting my 75 year old mom a Ruger 10/22. My stepfather kept getting her double action pistols and revolvers. On some of them when we took her to the range she didn't have the hand strength to even squeeze the trigger. When she did on others it was like pulling a hand weight for her.

My Mom has the same issues with hand strength. She really wanted a revolver and a small revolver since she plans to get her ccw someday and wants to pocket carry.

We determined the Ruger LCR has a trigger she can actually pull, and quite easily.

The 3" 38 spl model might be an option for you Mom

 

[RedlegRick]

The Henry in 410 might be a good choice. Its heavy enough to absorb a lot of the recoil

I considered it, but the price and the learning curve she'd need to master working a lever. I know my girlfriend, her trying to crank that action open and shut would be too much.
Besides, if I got one for her, chances are real good it never finds its way to her house in the first place. There's some woodlots I know of that would be ideal for. She'll get a pump, those are easier for me to teach, or maybe even Circuit Judge if I can find one at the right price.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

The Circuit Judge does seem like a good choice.

 

[bannockburn]

I would probably go with the Mossberg HS410 Home Security Model. I think the vertical foregrip would be more intuitive and easier to use for someone who is of advanced age.

 

[TreeDoc]

ended up getting my 75 year old mom a Ruger 10/22. My stepfather kept getting her double action pistols and revolvers. On some of them when we took her to the range she didn't have the hand strength to even squeeze the trigger. When she did on others it was like pulling a hand weight for her.

That is what I got my grandmother + a red laser, 25 rd mag.

 

[Dibbs]

Governor?

Judge?

If I had to guess, not what the OP had in mind. That said, I really like my Governor.
Great grip, as a result, VERY manageable recoil. Accurate and light.

 

[Odd Job]

I agree with those who suggested a side-by-side 20 gauge. It will be effective with the right ammunition and there is less to "go wrong" both mechanically and in terms of user error.

 

[George P]

I've been considering getting something similar for my SO as well. She's of slight stature and recoil shy too. Really good with the Marlin 795 I got her, but even a 9mm in a Sub 2000 was a bit too much. Perhaps not the Shockwave, but the 500/Maverick youth model with the short barrel and stock, but I wanted to borrow one first and have her try it out before committing to a purchase.

A LOT of the perceived recoil most females experience is from the noise of the shot. It scares them easily, so make sure whatever you're shooting that she doubles up with tight fitting plugs and properly fitting muffs - both with high db reduction values.

 

[ChanceMcCall]

My Mom has the same issues with hand strength. She really wanted a revolver and a small revolver since she plans to get her ccw someday and wants to pocket carry.

We determined the Ruger LCR has a trigger she can actually pull, and quite easily.

The 3" 38 spl model might be an option for you Mom

When my mother was in her 90s she moved to a Beretta Tomcat in .32 ACP.

 

[FAS1]

How about this? Seems like it would be easy to handle.

https://www.americantactical.us/5908/detail.html

 

[.22M.R.F.]

Sure appreciate the help, learned that Mossberg offers a Youth Model with a shortened stock and a 20" barrel, 410 guage. was just what the doctor ordered, many thanks!

 

[Scooter22]

I don't mean to hijack the thread. Is the .410 Circuit Judge a fully rifled barrel? You can use 45LC in it. But rifleing will spin shot making the pattern spread quick. Or is it only mean't to be used with buck shot, thats in a single column and slugs.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

I believe only the very end of the barrel is rifled. Its enough to stabilize the 45 colt, bit it does throw off the pattern of shot a little bit

 

[BigBlue 94]

Remington 870 Express in 410 is a sweet little gun. Light, small, and easy to use.

Any round with 4 shot or bigger aught to put a bad guy down. The problem with buckshot in a 410 is there's so few pellets.

 

[12Bravo20]

I’m fine with 5 pellets of 00 or 000 buckshot out of a 410 shell versus 9 pellets out of a 12 especially if my fiancée can handle the 410.

 

[Jessesky]

There is the mossberg 500 shockwave in .410 and 20 gauge. 14” barrel and you can toss on an arm brace to make it a weildy legal SBS.

This should cut down on weight significantly and balance the weight away from the muzzle making it even lighter feeling. If she can handle the 20ga, get low recoil 20ga loads over the .410

Even better Remington makes the 1100 “shockwave” which should be VERY light recoiling in 20ga. I do recommend the arm brace (buttstock) as I don’t think birds head shotguns provide adequate aim.

 

[entropy]

V3, not 1100, and it's only made in 12 ga. Do your research.

I don’t think birds head shotguns provide adequate aim.

Try one sometime, you may be surprised.

 

[Jessesky]

V3, not 1100, and it's only made in 12 ga. Do your research.



Try one sometime, you may be surprised.

Okay, my mistake. It was a black aces product made from an 1100 that I mistook for the Remington factory made “shockwave”. Still a good recommendation.

Try being a bit more friendly. We’re just discussing