Is there a suppressable .45acp carbine/pistol "shell" that could accept at LEAST Glock mags??

[BullHeadedGideon]

It seems like a suppressable .45acp carbine/AR pistol would be a good Home Defense setup. (If you have better suggestions, please feel free to shoot em at me.) (Pun intended) ; )

I really love the idea of versatility; so for me, the perfect thing would seem to be something like a pistol "shell" similar to the IMI Defense Kidon because I could buy adapter plates for different kinds handguns to put in there. Only problem is I don't think it can be suppressed. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.)

This is what I'm hoping to find: A suppressable .45acp pistol "shell" (like a micro Roni or IMI Kidon) that could accept at least a Glock & 1911 mags, have something that covers the trigger guard like the Micro Roni, & has railslots around the front for a laser/light combo.

If I can't find something suppressable that I'd be able to use both Glock & 1911 mags with, then which would you suggest, & why?

If there's no suppressable pistol shell, I guess I'm just stuck with building an AR pistol in .45acp = /. If that is my only option, is there any kind of adapter, or something, that I could use to be able to use Glock AND 1911 mags with?

All replies are appreciated & welcome - thank you! = )

 

[AlexanderA]

I wouldn't use a suppressor (or any NFA item) for home defense. It wouldn't look good to a jury. They might think that you were over-arming and just savoring the possibility of trouble.

Stick to weapons "in common use," like an ordinary pistol or shotgun.

 

[jak67429]

Not sure what you mean by "suppressible pistol shell". If you have an pistol with a threaded barrel you can add a suppressor to it.If legal here you live, and you go through the process of getting one.

 

[WestKentucky]

AR45 comes to mind. Essentially an AR15 lower with a magazine conversion block to make it take Glock mags. A 45acp barrel would likely be threaded so a suppressor would be easy.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

It seems like a suppressable .45acp carbine/AR pistol would be a good Home Defense setup. (If you have better suggestions, please feel free to shoot em at me.) (Pun intended) ; )

I really love the idea of versatility; so for me, the perfect thing would seem to be something like a pistol "shell" similar to the IMI Defense Kidon because I could buy adapter plates for different kinds handguns to put in there. Only problem is I don't think it can be suppressed. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.)

This is what I'm hoping to find: A suppressable .45acp pistol "shell" (like a micro Roni or IMI Kidon) that could accept at least a Glock & 1911 mags, have something that covers the trigger guard like the Micro Roni, & has railslots around the front for a laser/light combo.

If I can't find something suppressable that I'd be able to use both Glock & 1911 mags with, then which would you suggest, & why?

If there's no suppressable pistol shell, I guess I'm just stuck with building an AR pistol in .45acp = /. If that is my only option, is there any kind of adapter, or something, that I could use to be able to use Glock AND 1911 mags with?

All replies are appreciated & welcome - thank you! = )

I know this isn't exactly what you are looking for but the KRISS Vector pistol in 45 ACP can be suppressed, takes Glock mags, and can be had with a brace. You also get the rail attachments you are looking for. KRISS also makes magazine extensions for Glock magazines. I have some for my 10mm KRISS carbine.

Unfortunately it's a very expensive package to put together, but maybe that isn't a concern.

 

[jmorris]

I can’t think of one that uses both Glock & 1911 mags. I have some STI grips that will allow the same frame to take both double stack and single stack mags but the double stack isn’t Glock.

Why would you want both in the same frame?

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Not sure what you mean by "suppressible pistol shell". If you have an pistol with a threaded barrel you can add a suppressor to it.If legal here you live, and you go through the process of getting one.

Like a Micro-Roni or some such device.

 

[hq]

If I can't find something suppressable that I'd be able to use both Glock & 1911 mags with, then which would you suggest, & why?

MechTech CCU. Simple and robust design, uses pistol frame as a basis so as far as magazine compatibility is concerned, take your pick. Glock, 1911, XD/M. Readily suppressed with threaded barrel. Pretty much the simplest solution available.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Aero survival rifle barrel can be threaded for a can, about $68. I think you can order that when you purchases the rifle. If not just send the barrel to TNW to be threaded.
https://www.tnwfirearms.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ASRX-SVTB-XXXX-BKXX-THRD

You will need a stamp.

 

[hk940]

The Areo carbine uses Glock mags. They now make a pistol version, it uses a brace. The nice thing is the barrel is removable like a Sten. They are convertible Right hand, left hand.

 

[Englishmn]

Something like this?
They also make a trigger guard that folds into a vertical grip but then you have a aow.

 

[BullHeadedGideon]

I wouldn't use a suppressor (or any NFA item) for home defense. It wouldn't look good to a jury. They might think that you were over-arming and just savoring the possibility of trouble.

Stick to weapons "in common use," like an ordinary pistol or shotgun.

Viable point.
I'm just interested in the suppressor so I don't blow my ears out inside the house.
Would you say that shouldn't be too much of a concern? If not, then I guess I'll ditch the suppressor. I just thought it'd be a good idea for my ears.

 

[BullHeadedGideon]

Not sure what you mean by "suppressible pistol shell". If you have an pistol with a threaded barrel you can add a suppressor to it.If legal here you live, and you go through the process of getting one.

A pistol shell, like the Micro Roni or IMI Defense Kidon, that I could put a suppressor on.

 

[BullHeadedGideon]

AR45 comes to mind. Essentially an AR15 lower with a magazine conversion block to make it take Glock mags. A 45acp barrel would likely be threaded so a suppressor would be easy.

Yea, I have considered that. I just want to see if there's a pistol-shell first, that will fit my "requirements." If not, then I guess I will go that route.

What are some AR45 options that wouldn't break my wallet?

 

[BullHeadedGideon]

I can’t think of one that uses both Glock & 1911 mags. I have some STI grips that will allow the same frame to take both double stack and single stack mags but the double stack isn’t Glock.

Why would you want both in the same frame?

Just for the idea of versatility. I really like the idea of a weapon being as versatile as possible.
Y'know, say I feel like carrying my 1911 one day, & a Glock .45 another day...
& say some crazy stuff happens in our country, I'd be able to use all sorts of mags. Like the IMI Kidon is able to do.

 

[BullHeadedGideon]

Something like this?
They also make a trigger guard that folds into a vertical grip but then you have a aow.View attachment 866026

What is that?
Is it: 45acp, suppressable, & can use glock mags AND 1911 mags?

 

[jmorris]

Just for the idea of versatility. I really like the idea of a weapon being as versatile as possible.
Y'know, say I feel like carrying my 1911 one day, & a Glock .45 another day...
& say some crazy stuff happens in our country, I'd be able to use all sorts of mags. Like the IMI Kidon is able to do.

Only thing I can think of would be the aforementioned STI (or SV) with multiple grips.

The single stack grip has inserts and a different mag catch, that would get you the 1911 mag part, then you would need to modify the double stack one to take Glock mags, then you could use it on a mech tech upper and thread it for a can.

Of course it would be cheaper to just buy two different carbines but it could be done.

Only reason I have that one was for a class that only allowed single stack pistols, why I wondered about your interest.





FWIW the IMI Kidon kit doesn’t allow you to use all sorts of magazines with the same firearm. It’s a “shell” that, with adapters, you can put all sorts of pistols in, effectively making them SBR’s. If you had one here, every different pistol you stuck in one would need a stamp and still wouldn’t allow you to use a single stack 1911 magazine in a Glock frame or a Glock mag in a 1911 frame.

Most of the other responses are reading your OP as Glock OR 1911 mags or just 45 ACP carbine, not carbine that can use both Glock AND 1911 mags.

You just might be able to do it with a Marlin camp 45 though. They used 1911 mags from the factory and some of the camp 9’s have been converted to use Glock mags. Even if you could pull it off, it would be a lot of work, certainly not “off the shelf” and you would have to change the trigger housing to swap between the two.

 

[Englishmn]

https://www.zfi-inc.com/product/fab...g2p-pdw-conversion-kit-with-pathfinder-stock/

that is a kpos g2p. mine is for glock 17/19 they have one for the 45 glocks and other pistols.
it is a frame you put your glock into.
if your glock has a threaded barrel there is room for a suppressor

 

[WestKentucky]

I just thought about another one... the TNW aero survival platform is available in either pistol or rifle variation.

 

[herrwalther]

know this isn't exactly what you are looking for but the KRISS Vector pistol in 45 ACP can be suppressed, takes Glock mags, and can be had with a brace. You also get the rail attachments you are looking for. KRISS also makes magazine extensions for Glock magazines. I have some for my 10mm KRISS carbine.

This is what I was thinking as well. Pricey, yep. But fits all the criteria.

 

[AlexanderA]

I'm just interested in the suppressor so I don't blow my ears out inside the house.
Would you say that shouldn't be too much of a concern? If not, then I guess I'll ditch the suppressor. I just thought it'd be a good idea for my ears.

Defending your home from intruders is a life-or-death situation. Hearing protection would be a secondary consideration. This is not like a routine trip to the range.

My only experience hearing guns fired inside a house was during a Civil War "tactical" reenactment. My unit had permission to occupy a derelict house (it was slated to be torn down) and the other side got to attack us. Yes, pistols fired inside the house (with blanks) were considerably louder than the same pistols fired in the open air. Still, this was not something that handicapped the participants.

 

[Lucky Derby]

I don't think a suppressor for a HD firearm is a bad idea, especially if you have small children in the house.

 

[rodregier]

Active hearing protection stored with a defensive firearm is another alternative to the suppressor that
would probably be more defensible in court (cheaper too).
Massad Ayoob has mentioned that kind of technology for indoor defensive firearm usage earlier.

Non-exclusive example:

https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Elect...?keywords=peltor+active&qid=1571413016&sr=8-1

Dropping the suppressor requirement could open up your cartridge list since "intrinsically subsonic"
no longer need to be a consideration.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I don't think a suppressor for a HD firearm is a bad idea, especially if you have small children in the house.

Or animals.

 

[TTv2]

I wouldn't use a suppressor (or any NFA item) for home defense. It wouldn't look good to a jury. They might think that you were over-arming and just savoring the possibility of trouble.

Stick to weapons "in common use," like an ordinary pistol or shotgun.

IDK, there's a good case to be made for suppressors for inside the home defense use given the noise levels involved with shooting guns. The only reason I'm somewhat against the idea of a suppressor for home defense is it adds a lot of length to a gun and in tight corners gives an invader something more to grab and disarm you with.

If you want a low noise gun for home defense, use .22, .32, .38. My .357's I've got stashed are all loaded with .38 +P's.