July 1 Vote in New Jersey to Ban 50 BMG, and anything else 50 caliber and up!

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Credit goes to member sur+rifle for this alert;

This has been a back and fourth battle for a long time in New Jersey. If you live there, please contact your legislator ASAP. We need to hold this line in every state.

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50-Cals Under Attack in NJ
Author: GR Staff
June 18, 2008

Last week, the New Jersey Assembly Judiciary Committee approved legislation that would ban the purchase, transfer, and inheritance of many popular hunting guns, historical American firearms, and large-bore target firearms, based on alleged public safety concerns.

Touted as a ban on .50 caliber and larger firearms, A2116 bans dozens of models of popular hunting guns, including traditional .50 muzzle loaders with synthetic stocks, fiber optic sights, or scopes in lieu of sights. The bill also bans many modern safari rifles and hunting handguns.

A2116 also bans hundreds of historical American firearms and replicas, including from the Civil War and Revolutionary War eras.

A2116 also outlaws the .50 BMG rifle, the purported target of the legislation.

Dozens of traditional muzzleloaders will be banned by A211, including: Buckskinner flintlock Carbine (.50), CVA Greywolf percussion (.50), Deer Hunter flintlock (blue) (.50), Pursuit XLT flintlock (camo) (.50), Stone Mountain Silver Eagle percussion carbine (.50), Thompson Center Black Mountain Magnum percussion (.50), and Traditions Panther percussion (.54).

Because A2116 redefines many hunting firearms as “destructive devices,” the legislation prevents the heirs of those who currently own these firearms from inheriting them as family heirlooms.

Modern Guns Banned by A2116 include these chamberings of hunting rifles: .50 Alaskan, .500 Nitro Express, .50 Beowolf, .50 Airgun, 14.5mm JDJ, and dozens of others.

Examples of banned handguns include the .50 Remington Single Shot RF, AMT Auto Mag, Bowen Classic Arms .500 Linebaugh Revolver, Guncrafter Industries M1, Magnum Research Desert Eagle, Smith & Wesson 500 Revolver, Taurus Raging Bull 500 Revolver, and the Thompson Center Encore .50 Single Shot, among others.

The bill now moves to the full Assembly for a vote before Tuesday, July 1.

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Press Release
GUSCIORA BILL TO BAN MILITARY-STYLE .50-CALIBER GUNS ADVANCES
By Gita Bajaj - June 12, 2008 - 6:31pm
Tags: Gusciora, A-2116, Military-Grade Weapons;,
Release Date: Jun 12 2008

Assembly Democrats News Release

GUSCIORA BILL TO BAN MILITARY-STYLE .50-CALIBER GUNS ADVANCES
Potentially Destructive Military-Grade Weapons Pose Security Threat to NJ

(TRENTON) - Legislation Assemblyman Reed Gusciora sponsored that would ban the sale of .50-caliber rifles - powerful battlefield-styled weapons that would be devastatingly lethal in the hands of terrorists - was released today from the Assembly Judiciary Committee.

If enacted, New Jersey would join California as the second state to ban the sale or possession of these weapons.

Gusciora said his measure (A-2116) gained increased significance after six men were charged in May 2007 with planning an assault on Fort Dix with the goal of "killing as many soldiers as possible," using military-grade weapons, like mortars, rocket-propelled grenades, and AK-47s.

"In a post-9/11 society, there is simply no reason for .50-caliber weapons to be available for civilian use," said Gusciora (D-Mercer). "With the continued rise in gang violence across the state and the fact that New Jersey possesses numerous chemical plants and rail yards vulnerable to attack by .50-caliber weapons, we have a serious responsibility to stop these inherently deadly weapons from falling into the wrong hands."

According to Gusciora, .50-caliber assault rifles are prized for their long-range accuracy capacity to disable or destroy parked aircraft, armored personnel carriers, rail tank cars, bulk fuel storage, and concrete bunkers in war zones.

The legislator said the measure would reduce the potential for such weapons falling into the hands of terrorists.

Currently, .50-caliber weapons are available for purchase at New Jersey gun shops by anyone who possesses proper identification and passes a simple background check. The weapon has a firing range of up to 2,000 yards and its ammunition is the largest round available in the civilian marketplace.

Variations of the ammunition with armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive capabilities also are readily available for purchase.

The legislation would revise the definition of a "destructive device" to include weapons of .50-caliber or greater, making it unlawful to possess the powerful weapons. The current definition only applies to weapons .60-caliber or greater and explosive or incendiary devices.

The bill includes an exemption for antique firearms, antique handguns, and traditional muzzle loader rifles, as well as a "grandfather" provision to allow persons who already lawfully posses a firearm of .50-caliber or greater to continue to legally possess their large caliber weapon.

Gusciora said the assault-style weapons has no legitimate sporting purpose.

"Fifty-caliber guns are inappropriate and unnecessary for civilian use and sale," said Gusciora. "These are military weapons designed specifically for the battlefield. There is no justifiable reason they should be available in the open market. "

Under the measure, a person illegally possessing a .50-caliber weapon would be guilty of a third-degree crime punishable by a $15,000 fine and up to five years in prison.

The measure was released 5 to 1. It now heads to the Assembly Speaker who will decide if and when to post it for a floor vote.
 
Gusciora said the assault-style weapons has no legitimate sporting purpose.

"Fifty-caliber guns are inappropriate and unnecessary for civilian use and sale," said Gusciora. "These are military weapons designed specifically for the battlefield. There is no justifiable reason they should be available in the open market. "

Spoken like a good Jersey Socialist.
My God,where do they find these people?
All the blood we've spilled and treasure we've spent to end up with fools like this?
Is there any hope for sanity in places like Illinois and New Jersey?
 
According to Gusciora, .50-caliber assault rifles are prized for their long-range accuracy capacity to disable or destroy parked aircraft, armored personnel carriers, rail tank cars, bulk fuel storage, and concrete bunkers in war zones.

He's right! Ban them and ban them now! I don't know how many times a day I have to dodge .50cal sniper rounds that are aimed at my local war zone parked aircraft, armored car, tank cars, bunkers and bulk fuel storage facilities.

Is everyone else's neighborhood this bad?
 
Wow! Even muzzle loaders and so forth!

I can't say what I am thinking because it is not allowed here in Political Correctness and it may get 'political'.

Catherine
 
Barf.

I'm glad I tucked one away. I would like to personally inform him that mine DOES have a use for this civilian; it's tons of fun, aids me in my pursuit of happiness, stimulates our economy, and makes me a little more proud to be an American. It's also my right to own one.
 
At what point in history did we, as a society, decide that civilians should not own military-grade weaponry?

I tend to believe that those of us at THR are in the minority when it comes to this issue as far as the country as a whole is concerned. And that is very disturbing to me, since the Founding Fathers essentially mandated that the people should always have the fundamental right to be as well armed as their government.

So my question is... at what point in history did this change, and what was the event that facilitated this regression?

It obviously happened well before my time, since I can remember ever since I was young that there was a general societal disdain for the idea of civilians owning "non-sporting" firearms.
 
wth is the point of this? It can't even have a plausible reason.

We all know millions of crimes are committed in NJ using 50 cal fire-arms.................

I hope you get it stopped.
 
Wait, New Jersey's not a war zone?

On a serious note, that bill is....creative. I'd like to see the legislator show one crime commited in NJ with the dangerous .50. Or for that matter make the 2000 yd shot with one.
 
"In a post-9/11 society, there is simply no reason for .50-caliber weapons to be available for civilian use," said Gusciora

I'm afraid you got it wrong, Gusciora. Citizens act by right. It is government that acts by permission.

Reversing that principle has been the beginning of the end a great number of times in history.
 
What exactly does 9/11 really have to do with this in the first place? .50cal rifles weren't used to shoot down the airplanes that crashed into the Twin Towers. Nor were they a problem before or aft. Mentioning 9/11 is worthless to anyone with half a brain. I would assume its meant to play on the hearts and emotions of those who don't think for themselves.
 
"Wow! Even muzzle loaders and so forth!"

I don't get it. The last person to comit a crime with a flintlock was the guy who stole Paul Revere's horse.

Only in NJ. It's felony to own a sling shot here. Not allowed to carry pepper-spray, either. You'll put your eye out.

I heard something about them going after .60 caliber muzzle loaders a little while back, then nothing. I knew it was too good to be true.

NJ politicians have a total anti-self defence mentality. All of them, even non Democrats. I thought it was mostly a North Jersey thing, but there is a South Jersey Congressman running against Lautenburg. His name is Rob Andrews, and he's a flaming anti too.

If re-elected, Sen. Lautenburg will be 162 years old at the end of his next term.
 
"I do solemnly swear to protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America against all enemies , foreign and domestic "

How many of us have taken this oath ?

""Fifty-caliber guns are inappropriate and unnecessary for civilian use and sale," said Gusciora. "These are military weapons designed specifically for the battlefield. There is no justifiable reason they should be available in the open market. "

One justifiable reason might be to make political leaders of of un-namable parties fear for their lives when they try to subvert the US Constitution.

( Is the reason for the existence of the 2nd Amendment too political for this forum ? )


it's already illegal to do .. illegal acts. We don't need to ban a type of weapon , because the ban on shooting stuff like : " disable or destroy parked aircraft, armored personnel carriers, rail tank cars, bulk fuel storage, and concrete bunkers in war zones. " already exists - except for the war zone part ..

Maybe he is trying to outlaw War Zones ?
 
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Terrorists and 9/11 references are only used to evoke emotion out of people.

Their idea is to not support this bill is to spit on the graves of those who were killed in the 9/11 attack.

When in fact the real truth is any effort to limit the constitution and bill of rights is to spit on the graves, wounds and service of every soldier who fought in any theater for this country and its freedom.

The really sad fact here is people believe this nonsense and re elect politicians like this all the time.
I don't blame politicians as much as the citizens of the states that keep putting people like this in office.
 
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