Just finished reading the new AWB. I have 2 questions. Will a Remington 870p and Remington 7615 pump action .223 be covered by this? Also where does one go to find a Congressmans' or Senators' record on these type of issues? I found where to write them, I just need to know how they stand before I email them. Thanks in advance for your help.
Just read HR 1022. Please help with question.
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MatthewVanitas
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Both of those firearms are manually-operated, so the law overall will not effect the actual firearm.
However, (BIG however), check out the magazine restriction clauses.
Unless you like being limited to 10rd magazines for your pump .223, that part of the law will indeed effect you. If they cut off the supply of full-capacity AR15 mags, the supply will fail to meet demand, and magazine prices will rise.
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However, (BIG however), check out the magazine restriction clauses.
Unless you like being limited to 10rd magazines for your pump .223, that part of the law will indeed effect you. If they cut off the supply of full-capacity AR15 mags, the supply will fail to meet demand, and magazine prices will rise.
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VARifleman
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I got that impression
MrDig
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Try Here
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Also write your Senators I wrote to both, as well as my Congressman.
If there are issues regarding Castle Doctrine atthe state level and or CCW issues do a web search for your states legislature.
and Join the NRA
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Also write your Senators I wrote to both, as well as my Congressman.
If there are issues regarding Castle Doctrine atthe state level and or CCW issues do a web search for your states legislature.
and Join the NRA
bogie
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If they are not specifically covered by _this_ legislation, they _will_ be covered by other legislation.
So call and write your congresscritters, write letters to the editors of your local papers and tv stations, and when you see anti-anti-RKBA news, get on it and shine the light of day on it.
So call and write your congresscritters, write letters to the editors of your local papers and tv stations, and when you see anti-anti-RKBA news, get on it and shine the light of day on it.
Prof. A. Wickwire
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Folks,
Even if you have an anti-gun Democratic Senator or Representative, write them anyway (I live in New York, Clinton and Schumer).
In my letter to Hillary Clinton I stated the following "Your husband credited the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 and the NRA action following its passage as being in large part responsible for the Democratic losses in the following elections. This put the House and Senate solidly in Republican hands for 12 years. Is a new Assault Weapons Ban worth possibly sacrificing all the gains the Democrats made in the 2006 elections? With this in mind, please try to keep this legislation from moving out of committee."
Do not appeal to their Patriotism. Do not appeal to their loyalty. Do not appeal to their oaths to protect the Constitution. Appeal to their lust for power.
Anyone who wishes to is free to use the above text in letters to their local Democrats.
Sincerely,
Prof. A. Wickwire
Even if you have an anti-gun Democratic Senator or Representative, write them anyway (I live in New York, Clinton and Schumer).
In my letter to Hillary Clinton I stated the following "Your husband credited the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 and the NRA action following its passage as being in large part responsible for the Democratic losses in the following elections. This put the House and Senate solidly in Republican hands for 12 years. Is a new Assault Weapons Ban worth possibly sacrificing all the gains the Democrats made in the 2006 elections? With this in mind, please try to keep this legislation from moving out of committee."
Do not appeal to their Patriotism. Do not appeal to their loyalty. Do not appeal to their oaths to protect the Constitution. Appeal to their lust for power.
Anyone who wishes to is free to use the above text in letters to their local Democrats.
Sincerely,
Prof. A. Wickwire
VARifleman
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Here's where it had me think of the pump action evil looking shotguns:
Most definately it could ban many things. Even the 870P technicaly could be banned as it is a "police model" which is what the whole "P" stands forand as such is designed and marketed intended for use by police and is not sporting.
Guns marketed or sold to police, and arguably other things marked "law enforcement only" that are not currently backed by any particular law could in fact become law enforcement only. Many firearms dealers market many civilian legal things to law enforcement only, and the 870P for example is not even offered on remington's website, and is only on thier law enforcement website.
Guns marketed or sold to police, and arguably other things marked "law enforcement only" that are not currently backed by any particular law could in fact become law enforcement only. Many firearms dealers market many civilian legal things to law enforcement only, and the 870P for example is not even offered on remington's website, and is only on thier law enforcement website.
Ala Dan
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With all due respect, Rep- McCarthy D-New York is ill at the public, and
holds John Q. Citizen responsible for her husbands death at the hands of
a maniac. Danger looms on the horizon for us gun owners, as she is out
of the same mould as H-billary Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer, Frankenstein, Glenn,
Schumer, Bayh, O'bama and others~!
holds John Q. Citizen responsible for her husbands death at the hands of
a maniac. Danger looms on the horizon for us gun owners, as she is out
of the same mould as H-billary Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer, Frankenstein, Glenn,
Schumer, Bayh, O'bama and others~!
nobody_special
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VARifleman, the section you quoted only applies to "semiautomatic rifles or shotguns" and I believe by this they mean semiautomatic shotguns. Pump-action weapons are exempted elsewhere.
Is this the first time they have specificly added legislation talking about weapons designed for law enforcement being unsuitable for civilians?
I mean many arms used by law enforcement are not legal or could be considered AW according to definition by antis, but that is different.
This specificly lists weapons designed for law enforcement. Isn't that sort of acknowledging federal law enforcement as a standing body of troops for use against civilians?
I have seen law enforcement given exemptions, in fact usualy many times in laws, but never listed as a completely seperate entity different than the citizens so clearly.
Does that not strike anyone else as unique wording?
Normaly the laws exempt them, not lists them as something special and unique, whos very procurement of something puts it on par with military hardware. It certainly speaks "police state" more clearly than any previous wording.
I mean many arms used by law enforcement are not legal or could be considered AW according to definition by antis, but that is different.
This specificly lists weapons designed for law enforcement. Isn't that sort of acknowledging federal law enforcement as a standing body of troops for use against civilians?
I have seen law enforcement given exemptions, in fact usualy many times in laws, but never listed as a completely seperate entity different than the citizens so clearly.
Does that not strike anyone else as unique wording?
Normaly the laws exempt them, not lists them as something special and unique, whos very procurement of something puts it on par with military hardware. It certainly speaks "police state" more clearly than any previous wording.
Lupinus
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I haven't got a single rifle covered by this, hell I don't even have one where the magazines for them are covered.
What worries me is when they get a taste of this and want more, or when I decide to buy one covered I can't do it. Write your congress critter anyway
What worries me is when they get a taste of this and want more, or when I decide to buy one covered I can't do it. Write your congress critter anyway
VARifleman
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Yeah, I missed the section 5 stuff, still rather scary legistlation.
Sam Adams
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Lupinus
Bless you for posting this Reagan quote. Despite 922(o), I miss that man being in the White House.
Bless you for posting this Reagan quote. Despite 922(o), I miss that man being in the White House.
This phrase drives me NUTS!
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a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event
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Similarly,
"Water shall not be determined to be wet solely because it has the quality of wetness."
What are these people SMOKING?
:banghead: 
Do these laws even have to make simple linguistic sense? Forget practical sense; I know that's asking too much. However, I would appreciate a little less Dada-esque absurdity in our legislation. "Red is green!" "Up is down!" "All squares shall be round!" "Guns suitable for sporting purposes aren't necessarily suitable for sporting purposes!"
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a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event
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Similarly,
"Water shall not be determined to be wet solely because it has the quality of wetness."
What are these people SMOKING?
:banghead: Do these laws even have to make simple linguistic sense? Forget practical sense; I know that's asking too much. However, I would appreciate a little less Dada-esque absurdity in our legislation. "Red is green!" "Up is down!" "All squares shall be round!" "Guns suitable for sporting purposes aren't necessarily suitable for sporting purposes!"
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