Badger Arms
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Okay, took the gun out and put about 130 rounds through it. The ammo was old, tarnished remanufactured ammo that had been laying around for somewhere around 25 years. Even with the bad ammo, I was still able to print some good groups. See the accompanying pictures.
The gun recoils really light. Brass is dropped about 2-10 feet to the right. The location of the charging handle is a bit awkward at first, but it became natural as the session continued. I could trip the bolt handle from its locked position with my off-hand just as one would do with an MP-5. Nice. Because the magazine housing is integral with the grip, I could easilly find it without fumbling or looking as I had to do with the MP-5.
The sights were alright. The red post would be better if it were just black. Especially when you are shooting at orange-dot targets as I was TRYING to. At 25 yards, it was hard. At 50 and 100 yards I had no trouble as I was aiming at black. After the 25 yard group, I adjusted the sights. The 100 yard group is the larger one in the picture below. Note, I stupidly adjusted the front sight DOWN because I wanted to shift the group DOWN. Of course, you have to shift the front sight UP to shift the group DOWN. BAD BADGER, BAD!
I had a single STOVEPIPE malfunction. This was the top round of my 30-round magazine, so the drag of the bolt on the topmost round was most pronounced there. Since I was using light loads, I can understand a malfunction happening there. Funny thing was, I noticed the case was split! Not the fault of the gun, my P-11 popped out a split case too from the same lot. Bad ammo, not bad gun I'm going to say in this case. It chewed up the rest of the ammo no problem.
See below for the velocities. I chrony'ed 15 rounds from the P-11 and from the Sub-2000. This is 95gr ammo so it's pretty anemic by any standards. It's a wonder the Sub2K cycled as well as it did.
P-11___Sub2K
1100____1263
1096____1377
1112____1391
1095____1386
1070____1412
1107____1265
1112____1380
1107____1416
1104____1410
1062____1420
1083____1264
1071____1335
1125____1427
1122____1443
1117____1442
Overall, I liked the gun. It is refined enough for my taste. I wish there were a way to rotate the front sight housing instead of the windage adjustment screws (plastic). I also would have liked a different color front sight. Maybe they sell those? I think I'll keep the rifle deployed and not fold it that often. It is VERY short even when deployed being around 32 inches. It balances well and is more than accurate enough for what most people will use it for... plinking. I'd recommend it to anybody.
Here are the guns and magazines layed out:
Here is my first target:
Here is the target at 100 yards, see the little white rectangle between the bigger ones? That's it!
Here is what that target looked like after a 10 round string. This is really 10 rounds, the other two are higher on the target. BREATH CONTROL, BADGER! Remember, I adjusted the sight down which shifted my group UP. Stupid Badger...
Here are what three of my recovered cases looked like. These were the only ones I found split. The one that's upside down shows what the primer imprint from the firing pin looked like.
The gun recoils really light. Brass is dropped about 2-10 feet to the right. The location of the charging handle is a bit awkward at first, but it became natural as the session continued. I could trip the bolt handle from its locked position with my off-hand just as one would do with an MP-5. Nice. Because the magazine housing is integral with the grip, I could easilly find it without fumbling or looking as I had to do with the MP-5.
The sights were alright. The red post would be better if it were just black. Especially when you are shooting at orange-dot targets as I was TRYING to. At 25 yards, it was hard. At 50 and 100 yards I had no trouble as I was aiming at black. After the 25 yard group, I adjusted the sights. The 100 yard group is the larger one in the picture below. Note, I stupidly adjusted the front sight DOWN because I wanted to shift the group DOWN. Of course, you have to shift the front sight UP to shift the group DOWN. BAD BADGER, BAD!
I had a single STOVEPIPE malfunction. This was the top round of my 30-round magazine, so the drag of the bolt on the topmost round was most pronounced there. Since I was using light loads, I can understand a malfunction happening there. Funny thing was, I noticed the case was split! Not the fault of the gun, my P-11 popped out a split case too from the same lot. Bad ammo, not bad gun I'm going to say in this case. It chewed up the rest of the ammo no problem.
See below for the velocities. I chrony'ed 15 rounds from the P-11 and from the Sub-2000. This is 95gr ammo so it's pretty anemic by any standards. It's a wonder the Sub2K cycled as well as it did.
P-11___Sub2K
1100____1263
1096____1377
1112____1391
1095____1386
1070____1412
1107____1265
1112____1380
1107____1416
1104____1410
1062____1420
1083____1264
1071____1335
1125____1427
1122____1443
1117____1442
Overall, I liked the gun. It is refined enough for my taste. I wish there were a way to rotate the front sight housing instead of the windage adjustment screws (plastic). I also would have liked a different color front sight. Maybe they sell those? I think I'll keep the rifle deployed and not fold it that often. It is VERY short even when deployed being around 32 inches. It balances well and is more than accurate enough for what most people will use it for... plinking. I'd recommend it to anybody.
Here are the guns and magazines layed out:
Here is my first target:
Here is the target at 100 yards, see the little white rectangle between the bigger ones? That's it!
Here is what that target looked like after a 10 round string. This is really 10 rounds, the other two are higher on the target. BREATH CONTROL, BADGER! Remember, I adjusted the sight down which shifted my group UP. Stupid Badger...
Here are what three of my recovered cases looked like. These were the only ones I found split. The one that's upside down shows what the primer imprint from the firing pin looked like.
