Lapse of assault weapons ban cited for police deaths

[748]

Damn, 742 vots and still has 2 stars.

 

[obxned]

Banning anything is a good way to make that item more desirable. With the huge sums of money generated by the trade in crack and meth, I think the BGs will have whatever firearms they want. A ban is a great way to make these particular guns a thug status symbol.

 

[gc70]

Ban cars!

More LEOs are killed by cars than by guns.

 

[Drusagas]

still two stars with 757 votes

 

[FourTeeFive]

If nothing else Obama is proving that he is a moron by making statements like that. Will he use the same weak logic in making other political decisions?

It is sad that politicians these days are purely playing to emotions. And even sadder that the minions are eating it up.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

Hi powered guns?

I dunno... 'still lookin' for the engine. A 9mm (lugar) is a 9mm... no matter what the weapon looks like.

 

[Cannonball888]

Having owned a TEC-9 I can validate that they are indeed widely feared. You pull the trigger on that weapon and you have no clue where the bullets will go. The fixed sights on mine were off by 4 feet at 25 meters but that was just a guess based upon the MOA of 5 feet that it produced. Oftentimes bullets would strike the target in the lane next to mine.

If criminals are going to arm themselves anyway then they definitely should have these.

 

[tsidorus]

every time I read something like this it makes me want to go get an AK and a G17 just out of spite, even though Im perfectly happy with revolvers and leverguns...

 

[FourTeeFive]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1645301,00.html

Unfortunately they fail to mention that Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

But nice to see the press admitting that what he said was basically incorrect.

 

[kurtmax]

I would think criminals would prefer revolvers. No casings to leave behind. I know ballistic fingerprinting is pretty sketchy, but they can still match bullets recently shot by your gun many times.

 

[BBQJOE]

One of these days everyone in America will have a massive case of flatulence, and there will be so much smoke, no one will be able to see for a long time.

 

[MD_Willington]

I'll take my S&W 5906 over a TEC-9, at least I know I can put 15 on target with my S&W.... Tec-9.. well I'f I'm shooting the broad side of a barn at 10 paces, maybe...

 

[fletcher]

What a crock.

“Rather than six shots or five, they have 14 or 20.”

Irrelevant. Get back to us when you can show the average number of times an officer is shot by a suspect/criminal. Also...

The study did not examine how many of the police officers killed this year were shot with weapons that were legalized three years ago, but the study and figures compiled by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics suggest a statistical correlation.

Then how the !@)#(& do you know they're switching weapons?!?!?!

The 39 officers killed in the first half of 2007 exceeds the 36 officers shot to death in all of 2004, the last year the ban was in effect.

I wouldn't consider 3 more over a short period of time to be evidence of a definite cause-effect relationship. It also shows that during a ban year, the killings were also high. This does nothing more than weaken their argument.

widely feared Intratec Tec-9

From what I've read from owners, I think the only fear is that it's not going to hit the target.

 

[PercyShelley]

If anyone could hook me up with the stats I need, that would be much appreciated.

Anyhow, looking at the figures mentioned in the article: http://www.nleomf.org/media/pdf/MidYearDeathReport_2007.pdf

I'm noticing something interesting: namely that the causes of police death, while higher than a year ago, remain roughly proportionate to each other.

Aside from throwing doubt on MSNBC's claim (and it is their claim, not that of LEO's like they try to imply); after all if evil black rifles were slaying all the police officers, wouldn't firearms deaths be proportionately more prevalent than other sources, it suggests an underlying cause for these numbers.

What if the leading causes of risk to police officers have stayed exactly the same from 2006-2007, but there are more police officers nationally? That seems like the explanation Occam would like, given that the causes of death haven't changed at all proportionally to each other.

Does anyone know if there were more law enforcement officers active in 2007 than in 2006?

 

[Cosmoline]

The study did not examine how many of the police officers killed this year were shot with weapons that were legalized three years ago, but the study and figures compiled by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics suggest a statistical correlation.

This is a real gem, buried in the article. In other words, they don't actually have any evidence, they have a theoretical CORRELATION. Yet more proof that the mainstream media is a whore for the anti gun forces.

 

[TehK1w1]

Does anyone have or can link to statistics showing what % of guns used in crime (in a certain period) were illegally owned or "Hot"?

 

[fletcher]

^ Vague memories from a high school research paper are saying someone around 90%, but don't take my word for it.

 

[RobTzu]

The 39 officers killed in the first half of 2007 exceeds the 36 officers shot to death in all of 2004, the last year the ban was in effect.

39 in one half a year. That means the pace is 78, which is a big jump over 36. Lets not be sloppy in our critique.