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[Tilos]

got a new issue I haven't read about. I just ordered the "large" case slider for the old style Pro1000 case feeder. The "universal" one they sell now is different, and everyone was out of stock of the large case slider old style except Midway. Anyhow, it works fine until the last case or two, (.45 ACP) but those slide down the little ramp on the top of the slider and momentum carries them too far forward on the carrier and the case blocks the upward stroke of the ram unless I push it back against the slider. Not a huge deal, and the setup is definitely waaay faster than placing a piece of brass onto the slider/carrier by hand (which I have been doing for the past few days while I waited for the large case slider) but I wondered if anyone had experienced this issue and had a fix.

BTW the large/tall slider fixes the other issue with using the 9mm-sized slider on tall .45 cases, where the pressure of the stack of cases above it would cause the bottom one to tip as the slider pushed it forward. I assume that's why there are two sizes of sliders.

Also, my large primers are feeding without issue which is awesome. As long as I remember to refill the primer tray before the stack of primers gets below halfway on the trough, I have zero issues. I wonder if the LPP are heavier and slide better. My small primer carrier is more finicky even after the "burnishing" and custom cover fixes suggested.

I built this pusher for the last of the small primers:
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...utions-no-bashing.507454/page-7#post-10488122
works for me, no more shaking/tapping,

 

[1KPerDay]

Having a new problem with new large case pusher and .45 ACP. The case hits the right corner of the opening as the shell plate rotates into position. It jams, flips, displaces etc the case. Any ideas?

 

[Zendude]

Having a new problem with new large case pusher and .45 ACP. The case hits the right corner of the opening as the shell plate rotates into position. It jams, flips, displaces etc the case. Any ideas?

If it’s hitting the corner of the opening on the shell plate, then the indexing is off a little bit. The shellplate needs to snap into position just a tad sooner.

 

[1KPerDay]

Dang that was easy... thanks. Couple turns on the screw sorted it. I feel dumb...

 

[Zendude]

Dang that was easy... thanks. Couple turns on the screw sorted it. I feel dumb...

No reason to feel dumb. The Lee 1000 is a finicky contraption. I had the same issue a while back and it took some time for me to figure out the issue.

 

[kmw1954]

Hello folks, am pleased to be able to join in this topic and have been using a Pro1000 for about 2 years.

Recently ran into a new problem that I haven't been able to figure out how to cure. I have been using S&B small pistol primers w/o any failures in the press which is great until I just ran out. Switched to Winchester WSP and immediately started having issues. Looks like what is happening is the primer pin is hanging on the next primer and when the pin raises it is lifting the next primer and flipping it on it's side and then the next stroke fails. As a test I removed the Winchester and filled with some CCI small pistol and everything went back to normal.

These Winchesters don't feed very well either as I really need to shake the tray to get them to flow. Also I cannot really just switch the CCI primers as I have one 9mm pistol that has a light spring in it and I get FTF with the CCI. Any thoughts or help?

 

[1KPerDay]

I personally would try to find S&B primers. Mine prefers them also.

 

[kmw1954]

I personally would try to find S&B primers. Mine prefers them also.

I have been waiting since the end of January for the local Cabela's to restock and now they don't even list S&B pistol primers on their website! Might have to try some Remington.

 

[1KPerDay]

I have been waiting since the end of January for the local Cabela's to restock and now they don't even list S&B pistol primers on their website! Might have to try some Remington.

Might consider ordering 5-10K online.

 

[kmw1954]

At current consumption 5k would be about 2.5 years worth.

 

[1KPerDay]

And that's a problem.... because...?

 

[Scuffy]

Hey all! Have a friend who received his Pro 1000 in the mail yesterday and I was enlisted to help set it up. I'm used to my presses so it took me a second to get used to everything but as of right now I think I've got it all but dialed in enough for a few test runs. Except... the case feeder or slider block. I've got everything set for 45acp and the only issue I'm having so far is that when the slider block retracts, after placing brass in the plate... one edge of the slider mouth catches ever so slightly and nudges or drags the case back out of the plate just enough for it to require a tap with a finger to put it the brass back in place. Looking down on the slider block from above but at a normal operators position, the slider block appears to be sitting further to left side of the the rail it rides on rather than being centered. This moves the right side of the slider block mouth inward towards the center line and allowing it to drag on the brass. I've looked through all the manuals and through every post of this thread but I don't see anyone else encountering this problem. The slider block is plastic so I can take sand paper and knock down the offending edge a bit, gradually. And that's easy enough. But before I did I wanted to see if there was a "correct" work around.

 

[LiveLife]

case feeder or slider block ... one edge of the slider mouth catches ever so slightly and nudges or drags the case back out of the plate just enough for it to require a tap with a finger to put it the brass back in place.

... the slider block appears to be sitting further to left side of the the rail it rides on rather than being centered. This moves the right side of the slider block mouth inward towards the center line and allowing it to drag on the brass. I've looked through all the manuals and through every post of this thread but I don't see anyone else encountering this problem.

Which case slider are you using, the old style or newer universal?

Case slider is assembled from two pieces screwed together and perhaps there was a problem with the assembly. Here are old style small/large case sliders to the right of newer universal case slider base on the left.

The slider block is plastic so I can take sand paper and knock down the offending edge a bit, gradually. And that's easy enough. But before I did I wanted to see if there was a "correct" work around.

And if you see any issues with assembled pieces, a call to Lee customer service should address replacement. If you want to modify your case slider, that would be your choice.

Also, if you are using the newer universal case slider with riser, check the riser as well - https://leeprecision.com/universal-case-feeder-parts/

 

[Scuffy]

Morning all! Managed to stop over at my buddy's place and get a vid of the issue last night. Short vid but I felt like a one armed wall paper hanger trying to cycle the press, record, watch the screen- all at the same time.

 

[LiveLife]

I would give Lee customer service a call for replacement.

(262) 673-3075

Lee Precision
4275 County Road U
Hartford, WI 53027

 

[kmw1954]

Scuffy, I seem to remember having the same issue with the pusher on my Pro4000 ABLP press but I do not recall what I did to fix it.

 

[Dewey 68]

Check the "rails" on the bottom of the slider. I'm wondering if the right rail is bent out some, allowing the Z bar to push the slider over to the left further than it should go. If that's the case you could heat up the plastic with a heat gun or a torch if you are careful and bend it over to take out the slop.

 

[LiveLife]

allowing the Z bar to push the slider over to the left further than it should go.

OP is using post 2018 revision model of Pro 1000 (Flat base, hole through shell plate indexing, through ram spent primer disposal, etc.) that's using the new universal case slider and spring instead of the Z-bar so it applies constant tension on the slider.

I'm wondering if the right rail is bent out some

The slide rail is part of shell plate carrier casting. Hard to imagine that rail being bent as I believe this is a newly shipped Pro 1000 unless there's damage to the slide rail and OP can check to see if that's the case.

you could heat up the plastic with a heat gun or a torch ... and bend it

If this problem existed since new with the case slider, instead of modifying the slider finger, I think Lee would gladly replace the slider with a new slider under warranty. If OP believes modifying the slider finger on the right side would solve the problem, that will be up to the owner of the press.

I initially thought index timing could be off and moving the case before the slider/fingers retracted then after watching the video, I realized OP's Pro 1000 is post 2018 revision model (Like Auto Breech Lock Pro/Pro 4000) with holes through shellplate where index timing is fixed and cannot go out of index (You can see shellplate remains still as slider retracts back).

I am suspicious of case slider being the culprit and a quick call to Lee customer service/technical support should verify/identify the source of the problem.

 

[LiveLife]

when the slider block retracts, after placing brass in the plate... one edge of the slider mouth catches ever so slightly and nudges or drags the case back out of the plate just enough for it to require a tap with a finger to put it the brass back in place

Since the problem occurs when the slider retracts back with shellplate down on the carrier, I assumed the index timing was set.

Just to cover all bases, could you watch the shell plate holes and the alignment pin while moving the carrier up and down? Does the shell plate snap into station before the pin enters the hole or does the pin "guide" into the hole? If not, using a Phillips screwdriver, turn the adjustment bolt clockwise on left side of carrier while operating the ram lever until shell plate snaps into station before pin enters the hole. (BTW, lubricating the center hex rod/action rod with a drop of oil on finger tip really smooths out the indexing to almost silky smooth. I usually lubricate the rod at the start of reloading session and once again when indexing becomes less smooth)

If the shellplate was not indexing into station before alignment pin entered the hole, see if adjusting the index timing will address the slider finger snagging the brass back out as it retracts. If that doesn't fix the issue with the slider, I would give Lee customer service a call and see what they say.

 

[Zendude]

I agree that the slider finger could be out of spec. With large diameter brass, the new shape of the slider fingers doesn’t leave much tolerance for error compared to the older design.

 

[Dewey 68]

The slide rail is part of shell plate carrier casting. Hard to imagine that rail being bent as I believe this is a newly shipped Pro 1000 unless there's damage to the slide rail and OP can check to see if that's the case.

I was referring to the plastic "rails" on the bottom of the sliders that hold the slider to the aluminum rail. Maybe tabs would be a better description? Probably not an issue on the new design anyway.

OP is using post 2018 revision model of Pro 1000 (Flat base, hole through shell plate indexing, through ram spent primer disposal, etc.) that's using the new universal case slider and spring instead of the Z-bar so it applies constant tension on the slider.

I didn't realize Lee had changed that on the new models, I'll have to check that out. Very cool that Lee has addressed some issues with the Pro 1000.