Legal updates....

[Sheldon J]

From the Michigan State Police web site a PDF file that could be handy to have a copy of....

MCL 750.234d provides that it is a 90 day misdemeanor to possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
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A depository financial institution (e.g., bank or credit union)
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A church or other place of religious worship
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A court
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A theater
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A sports arena
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A day care center
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A hospital
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An establishment licensed under the Liquor Control Code

The above section does not apply to any of the following:
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The owner or a person hired as security (if the firearm is possessed for the purpose of providing security)
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A peace officer
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A person with a valid concealed pistol license (CPL) issued by any state
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A person who possesses on one of the above listed premises with the permission of the owner or owner’s agent
Officers must be aware of the above exemption for valid CPL holders as many of the citizens who openly carry firearms possess valid CPLs. An individual with a valid CPL may carry a non-concealed firearm in the above listed premises.
A CPL holder is not required by law to carry a pistol concealed. A CPL holder may carry a pistol concealed or non-concealed.

 

[NickEllis]

I'd say that's pretty clear! Would be nice if other laws were so clear, cut and dried. It would help if you bolded the last part... I almost didn't make it through the quote!

 

[Davey Wavey]

An establishment licensed under the Liquor Control Code

Does that include any restaurant that serves alcohol?

 

[Zane]

Does that include any restaurant that serves alcohol?

Yes, but it is worse. It includes any place that sells alcohol, including the grocery store. In fact, it also includes parking lot and sidewalks around any of the above.

The key is that there are no state restrictions (except in a court or jail) on where you can open carry with a CPL and a different set of restrictions for concealed carry.

 

[Sheldon J]

Restaurants are a separate issue for CCW they must get 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol before they enter the no CCW list. N not totally on top of this but Grocery stores are exempt, you must be in a State Liqueur store before the rule kicks in.

 

[Zane]

Restaurants are a separate issue for CCW they must get 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol before they enter the no CCW list. N not totally on top of this but Grocery stores are exempt, you must be in a State Liqueur store before the rule kicks in.

Keep in mind that there are two different lists of places where one cannot possess a firearm in Michigan.

The first list, the one posted above, is where you cannot possess unless you have a CPL or are security/law enforcement. The second list is the so called "Pistol Free Zone" where you cannot carry concealed with a CPL.

So, without a CPL you cannot OC or even be in the parking lot of any place that sells alcohol, including a restaurant or grocery store. With a CPL, you can carry concealed in the above areas that sell alcohol, as long as they get less than 51% of their revenue from alcohol served by the drink. However, with a CPL you can OC in any of the above.