Let's see pics of your home builts

[DMK]

I've seen a bunch of threads recently where folks assembled their own rifles. AKs, ARs, FALs, etc. Let's see yours!

Here's my AR carbine. Eagle Arms lower, Falcon Ergo Grip, Rock River internals, furniture and upper. Another is on the way.

Here my FAL (the shotgun was not home built): Imbel FAL kit with a Dan Coonan lower, Penguin furniture, TAPCO short brake plus assorted DSA and FSE parts.

 

[BerettaNut92]

Got me one of these. It's Cali-legal as it's only singleshot....

 

[riddleofsteel]

MAK90 with AMD-65 forend, Choate tool company Dragnov stock, forward vertical grip, Streamlight Scorpion in a Fobus quick disconnect mount.

SAR-1 with Ace tubular stock, AMD-65 forend and forward grip, ventilated metal covered gas tube, AMD-65 "snake-brake"

Essential Arms AR-15 clone (pre-ban) with telescoping stock, Bushmaster 16" (post-ban) upper with chrome lined barrel.

 

[clubsoda22]

I'm gonna see if i can convince zach (fslflint) to post the autocad drawing he made in 2 hours yesterday night his quick and dirty open bolt 9mm carbine...

 

[Gewehr98]

6.5-06 Interdiction Rifle

1916 J.G. Haenel 98 Mauser action, 26" Krieger heavy barrel, George Vais muzzle brake, Fajen Ace Varminter stock, Weaver V-16 scope, Canjar single-set trigger, titanium/aluminum speedlock striker, glass/aluminum powder bedding job, with the barrel completely free-floated. Best efforts to date at 1000 yards have been groups just slightly under 8", fired from the prone bipod. (Hence the scope bubble level) By no means benchrest-quality, but fairly easy to produce 1/4" 5-shot groups at 100 yards. 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tips, 3200 fps chronographed 10 feet from the muzzle. Centerpunched a golf ball at 500 meters during a certain competition in Sacramento:

 

[riddleofsteel]

This is an out of the box Remington Sendero 25-06 with Leupold 3.5 X 10 50mm Vari X III.

It can regularly produce .25 MOA groups with handloaded 117 grain Hornady SPBT Interlocks using 53.5 grains of 4831 over a BR2 primer.

ten round group

On zero wind days I have fired 1.5 MOA groups at 500 yards with the same load.

 

[Gewehr98]

Riddleofsteel, you built that gun?

 

[fslflint]

here yah go. I took out the fire control and trigger group because anyone with half a brain and a tooth pick could convert one of these to full auto....which is illegal.

 

[fslflint]

what you can't see very well is the picatinny rail that the flash light and front hand gaurd is attached to. I also drew a (slightly more) politically correct version with a longer barrel, no integrated silencer, a solid stock (as opposed to folding), and a bi-pod. its all just an open bolt semi design for now, tonight I'm starting on another desigh for the ar-15 size gas rifle. this one was just to show a few freinds. hopw you enjoy.

 

[MagKnightX]

If it's easily convertable to FA, it is ILLEGAL. If you actually built that, you did two illegal things, assuming that you didn't register it. If you also built a silencer, that's three illegal things.

Please do not bring the ATF down on Oleg for having a message board on which people post **** like that.

 

[fslflint]

hey mag,

did you actually read the posts or just assume that I built it. did you notice that it is an Auto CAD drawing? did you notice in clubsodas post that he said I did it last night? or did you just assume that I'm some idiot that does something that is blatantly illegal and then wanted to tell everyone about it? please, I hope someone else out there gave me the benefit of the doubt. mag, I left out the fire control and trigger group because I DON'T want anyone to buld it. and no, I did not build a suppressor. right now what is in my earlier post is all that it is, just a picture on a computer screen. and if you were really all that concerned with legallity you would know a few other things. 1) if I built it for my self in semi auto with no provision for full auto it would be perfectly legal. I do not have to serial number it. I do not have to register it. I just can't make it FA and can't build a silencer. also,2) I'm not stupid. I just posted a pic so people could see what it looked like because I thought it looked neat. and finally 3) I drew it LAST NIGHT, thus, I could not have built it unles I spent all of last night and today prototyping in a machine shop.


please know that I have no intentions of building machine guns unless I can do it legally and I have no intentions to make it easy for other people to do it with my designs.

 

[riddleofsteel]

Riddleofsteel, you built that gun?

No, as I said it is stock out of the box.

I guess I am continually amazed how well it shoots compared to high dollar gunsmith creations. It actually out shoots some of my rifles that cost me double its price.

 

[MagKnightX]

I read your posts, but they seemed to be ambiguous as to whether or not it was built.

And no, I did not notice clubsoda22's post.

 

[fslflint]

reading comprehension my dear friend. reading comprehension!!! reread the posts, they all say stuff about it being 'a drawing' or 'done in two hour yesterday night'. that doesn't sound to ambigous.

 

[Gewehr98]

Ok, it confused me...

No, as I said it is stock out of the box.

Because the thread starter was asking for home built rifles.

 

[riddleofsteel]

The type of sheet metal or simply machined weapons you drew have been in production since WW II. The Russians actually had competitions in which designers had to come up with weapons with the fewest number of operations to manufacture and complete. Rolled or folded sheet metal with cast trunions and rivets take the place of expensive, labor intensive forged and machined parts.
The PPSh-41 submachine gun was a brilliant example of such a weapon. It was unique in its simplicity, ruggedness and reliability, that Russian small arms are to this day still famous for. But some of the most important features were that there was no screws at all required for its assembly, and all the parts were made by cold stamping. So every tin can factory could manufacture these guns in large quantities, and Russians made over 5 million of them during the war.
The eventual child of this trend was the AK series that, of course can use folded sheet metal, rivets, cast trunions and selective machined fire control and barrel parts. It is argueably the most widly distributed military small arm in the world.

 

[mparris71]

Please do not bring the ATF down on Oleg for having a message board on which people post **** like that

When did it become against the law to draw a firearm??? No dimensions, No .DWG file attached, just a harmless crossection pic of a imaganary weapon. How dose that reflect badly on the T.H.R?

 

[fslflint]

the simplicity of russian designs is what brought about this drawing. a friend of mine asked how hard is it to draw a complete semi-auto pistol caliber carbine. I told him I could do better and drew that plus some other stuff in great detail in about 2 hours. then this thread came up and clubsoda said I should post a pic for conversation. the drawing was just an exercise in theoretical engineering. easily produced, simplicity of design...all stuff that has been around in the russian sub guns, tec 9s, mak 10s, stens and such guns. the fact is I like designing guns, this is not my first and won't be my last design. I didn't claim that the concept was mine, I know its not original.

 

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

Gewehr, once again I'm jealous of you. Very nice 6.5-06.


Regards,
Rabbit.

 

[cool45auto]

riddleofsteel: is the foregrip on the SAR on backwards or is it just me?

 

[riddleofsteel]

That is the standard posistion for the AMD 63/65 series the forend and grips came off of. If it is turned the other way (I have tried) it really gets in the way of mag changes. When you try it in standard posistion it is strange at first but soon you realize it forms a kind of isometric tension between your hands gripping the handles in opposite directions. Very comfortable and very condusive to recoil control.
Personally, I like the vertical fore grip on my MAK90 a little better.