Like New S&W Model 14-3

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Sometimes you find a nice gun that you have absolutely no need for, but it calls out to you. I keep swearing not to buy anymore K frame Smiths. I really don't need any more, unless there is something unusual or interesting about them.

Last week I was in a local shop and I spotted a very nice Model 14-3. Now I'm not one of those guys who claims a gun is unfired. This one had some powder residue on the frame around the firing pin hole. But it is as close to New In The Box as I have ever come across. Just the tiniest hint of a turn line, that's all. Chambers and bore are spotless. Not a scratch on the grips. It looks like it had six rounds fired through it, and it has been sitting in somebody's sock drawer for 40 years. SN is 5K235XX and The Book says 1973.

I have a couple of older K-38s, but I don't have a Model 14. So I started thinking what the heck. The gun was on consignment and the asking price was $599. I asked if the seller would take $500. The shop made the call and left a message. I bought some ammo and went home. I figured if the guy wanted to meet me halfway at $550 that would be fine. Later in the day the shop called and told me the seller had accepted my offer of $500. I said great, I would be in the following week to pick it up.

It gets better. When I showed up, the owner of the shop looked the gun over and said I had made a great purchase. I already knew that. He said if he had been aware of it he would probably have bought it himself. That's when I found out the gun came with the original box. Now I'm not one of those guys who thinks boxes are collectable, or should add to the price of the gun, but I do love the old blue boxes with the reenforced corners because that's the way Smiths came when I started buying them.

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No, it was just the box, there were no papers or tools. Let's not get too greedy.


Then I had a little fun with my camera. I took out my Model 17-3, which I bought brand spanky new in 1975, and took a photo of them together.

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OK, quick, which one is the 38 and which one is the 22? Can you tell? Ya gotta answer quick.

I have not shot the Model 14 yet, I intend to shoot it just a little bit, then do my best to keep it as pretty as the first owner did. My Model 17-3 is not quite so pretty, it has been shot a fair amount since I bought it back in 1975.

The problem is now, I am going to have to be on the lookout for a Model 16 (32 S&W Long) to complete the set.
 
Super nice aquisition. I know what you mean, sometimes certain guns just have your name on them. Well you have two great S&W target revolvers; like you say all you need is a Model 16 to make the set complete.
 
Bottom one is the .22. I'll wait and let others have a chance to explain how you tell.
 
Three things that jump out are:

* The shorter front sight on the .22.
* The pin in the frame below the rear sight that retains the firing pin on the .22.
* No rim clearance gap at the back of the cylinder on the .22 because it has countersunk chambers and the .38 doesn't.

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Very good on the ID's guys.

I also have the 14-3 and 17-3 combo. They are sweet shooters. My 14-3 was in near-perfect condition also. I have put 300 - 400 rounds through it in a year and it still looks near-perfect. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot and enjoy it.
 
Howdy Again

Well, to me the most obvious tell is the rivet in the hammer of the 38. It is what holds the firing pin in place. The 22 has a flat faced hammer. To tell you the truth, I did not notice that the front sight of the 38 was about 1/16" taller until I looked at the photos.

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I feel your pain......

For a couple of months I have been resisting the urge to buy any more S&W's. Being broke certainly helps, but when I ran into this Model of 1899 .38 Target, I couldn't help myself and managed to scrape up the dough.

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I am soooooooo jealous,,,

I am soooooooo jealous,,,
I collect centerfire rimfire pairs,,,
The Model 14/Model 17 pair still eludes me.

What a catch you made,,,
Congrats.

Aarond

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highpower

What a terrific old Model 1899 Target! I would have grabbed that in a New York Minute. Certainly 'unusual and interesting'. I have a refinished Model 1899, no where near as nice as that. Mind if I ask how much it cost?
 
Mind if I ask how much it cost?

I bought it FTF off of an add on Armslist for $250.

I too like the idea of having a matched pair of .22/.38 revolvers.

These are mine. 1948 K22 one line address and a 1950 K38.

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Driftwood, that's a beauty. You did well.

I have an identical pair that I bought used in near-new condition for my daughter, when she was about five. She turns 21 in 11 months and they will be her birthday present then. They make a classic pairing. Well done, Pard.


Willie

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Well, to me the most obvious tell is the rivet in the hammer of the 38. It is what holds the firing pin in place. The 22 has a flat faced hammer.
Dang, silly us, that should have jumped out at us. :)
 
I bought 2 14's this year . One I paid a lot more for and the other a tiny bit less .

That was a nice find .

Now if only I could find a 17 without breaking the bank .
 
I bought a 4" #15 about a year ago, then one day in a shop I was shown 2 gun rugs. Inside one was a 6" #14 .38 Spl. , inside the other was a 6" K-22 #17 .22 LR, both made in '51. I gave $400 for the .38, and $625 for the #17, both about 97-98%. The owner has bad arthritis, instead of safeing them, he sold them. Both have factory grips, the .22 shoots like a dream, and better than I can hold 'em.
 
NOW, the thing to do is to develop a handload for your K-38 that maximizes the accuracy potential and is easy on the gun. My favorite "just punchin' paper" load for .38 is 3.0/w231/158SWC or 3.0/Promo/158. I don't have a K-38, but thes two loads shoot well in every .38 Spl. in which I've used them. I had occasion to shoot the two loads through a heavily customized PPC revolver. It didn't shoot any better with its match load (I'm thinking 2.7/Bullseye/148HBWC, but not sure) than with my reloads in my hands nor the owner's.

Anyway, the point's not to brag on my reloads, but to encourage you to find a good load for the piece you own, and load up BUCKETS full of it, and practice with it until the world looks flat. At that point, you'll be surprised how well you can hit stuff!

Congrats on a VERY FINE purchase! I'm jealous and don't mind saying so! The closest I got to something like that was a nice old 6" model 19 (YEARS ago), which I didn't buy at the time because I thought everything I owned had to shoot "Magnum" loads and nothing very much lighter (ah, the folly of youth!).
 
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