Stevie-Ray
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That's nearly as much as I made before I retired. Be a great part-time job for retirees, even.
Local gas chain is looking for employees who carry guns.
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Madcap_Magician
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I have a white-collar job in a professional field in a city with approximately double the cost of living and I make $5 an hour less than that.
It must be bad if they're paying that much- maybe armed robbers have to take a pager and wait to be served by the host?
Aww no one has ever offered me money to open carry in skin-tight short shorts! Would I have to shave my legs?
It must be bad if they're paying that much- maybe armed robbers have to take a pager and wait to be served by the host?
Aww no one has ever offered me money to open carry in skin-tight short shorts! Would I have to shave my legs?
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Speedo66
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Well, I don't see any short shorts, but I have a feeling they're better looking than most here anyway, the ladies here excluded, of course.
Vern Humphrey
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Remember, OTHER employees held the same job, but were unarmed, and paid less than half that.
Choctaw
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Do you guys not have armed security guards in your states? We do so I don't view this as being any different. I have never understood the willingness to possibly die for a company.
Good Ol' Boy
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The armored truck companies around here pay $11-12/hr for armed driver positions.
Local LEO's make mid-high 30's/yr around here.
So yeah, there are a lot of folks that would probably jump on a armed job for $35/hr.
Local LEO's make mid-high 30's/yr around here.
So yeah, there are a lot of folks that would probably jump on a armed job for $35/hr.
Stew0576
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I definitely have a problem because the first thing I noticed was lack of safe gun handlingWell, I don't see any short shorts, but I have a feeling they're better looking than most here anyway, the ladies here excluded, of course.
Speedo66
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Not that it makes a difference, but I wonder if they carry them loaded or are they just a sales gimmick?
lemaymiami
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Have to speak up about "police unions".... My experience wasn't exactly a confidence builder...
When I started out in police work, the thought that I belonged to a union was comforting since there was always the possibility that I'd be needing them eventually. They did all of our collective bargaining every few years and were always available if you had a grievance but I was lucky enough not to need them until.... I ended up shooting and killing a young man one day on the job. The "victim's" family pitched quite a fuss since - if he was indeed killed in the commission of a felony - then his life insurance was null and void... The result was that instead of a quick ruling on justification from the state's attorney's office it was sent into an inquest situation that lasted for a few months... After watching quite a bit of perjury going on - all of it directed my way - I decided it would be a good idea to notify my union and ask for representation... Here's the exact words the union official that I spoke to told me... "Kid, you get indicted, you come see us..."
Not exactly what I was expecting at all... This was right at the beginning of the "cocaine cowboys" era down here in south Florida and officers were being indicted on the flimsiest grounds (almost all of the various officers charged were never convicted while their reputations were ruined.). Some should have been convicted of one thing or another but many were simply indicted so that the state's attorney back then could gain a reputation as a strong state's attorney during a corrupt era....
I made it through the inquest - all six months worth (hearings every month or so...) and the shooting was ruled justified. What saved me was our own investigators that clearly showed exactly what the true circumstances were... None of the various "witnesses" were ever charged with perjury either -although there was prima facie evidence for anyone that looked at it...
The big reason that police officers fare better in shooting situations than an ordinary citizen (if you believe that - I don't -since they're not only being looked at criminally - but also civilly - and their job is on the line with even the slightest misuse of force or violation of department policy...) is that there are laws on the books that not only require them to act -but also tie them to the agency they work for. In short, if you're within the law and you're acting within the rules and regulations of the agency you work for... then they must defend you since it's their insurance and financial well-being that's on the line... If you work for a private company there's a much different situation - and certainly a different situation if you're hurt on the job...
Years later when I was on the management side of things I saw more than one situation where the union gave advice to an officer that was clearly intended to benefit the union - not the officer...
What I've just spoken about is only one of the reasons that after I retired out of police work - I have never carried a sidearm even once since then and it's been 23 years now...
When I started out in police work, the thought that I belonged to a union was comforting since there was always the possibility that I'd be needing them eventually. They did all of our collective bargaining every few years and were always available if you had a grievance but I was lucky enough not to need them until.... I ended up shooting and killing a young man one day on the job. The "victim's" family pitched quite a fuss since - if he was indeed killed in the commission of a felony - then his life insurance was null and void... The result was that instead of a quick ruling on justification from the state's attorney's office it was sent into an inquest situation that lasted for a few months... After watching quite a bit of perjury going on - all of it directed my way - I decided it would be a good idea to notify my union and ask for representation... Here's the exact words the union official that I spoke to told me... "Kid, you get indicted, you come see us..."
Not exactly what I was expecting at all... This was right at the beginning of the "cocaine cowboys" era down here in south Florida and officers were being indicted on the flimsiest grounds (almost all of the various officers charged were never convicted while their reputations were ruined.). Some should have been convicted of one thing or another but many were simply indicted so that the state's attorney back then could gain a reputation as a strong state's attorney during a corrupt era....
I made it through the inquest - all six months worth (hearings every month or so...) and the shooting was ruled justified. What saved me was our own investigators that clearly showed exactly what the true circumstances were... None of the various "witnesses" were ever charged with perjury either -although there was prima facie evidence for anyone that looked at it...
The big reason that police officers fare better in shooting situations than an ordinary citizen (if you believe that - I don't -since they're not only being looked at criminally - but also civilly - and their job is on the line with even the slightest misuse of force or violation of department policy...) is that there are laws on the books that not only require them to act -but also tie them to the agency they work for. In short, if you're within the law and you're acting within the rules and regulations of the agency you work for... then they must defend you since it's their insurance and financial well-being that's on the line... If you work for a private company there's a much different situation - and certainly a different situation if you're hurt on the job...
Years later when I was on the management side of things I saw more than one situation where the union gave advice to an officer that was clearly intended to benefit the union - not the officer...
What I've just spoken about is only one of the reasons that after I retired out of police work - I have never carried a sidearm even once since then and it's been 23 years now...
CapnMac
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Kind of lean along the routes from DFW to Tulsa, sadly (for this frequent QT customer).
QT has shown itself to be a very agile corporation that offers its franchisees considerable leeway to make them money.
This is just one more good example of they achieve that. It's not likely something that will "catch on" much, those wind up being pretty expensive labor-hours to prevent losses covered largely, already, by insurance.
But, I admire the thinking behind it.
Trunk Monkey
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They carry them loaded. The Blonde (now a brunette) in the middle owns the restaurant. She requires her employees to pass an NRA certified CHP class before carrying on the clock.
According to her it didn't start out as a gimmick. Shortly after she opened the restaurant someone was beaten to death in the alley behind the restaurant. She got scared and started carrying at work, her wait staff asked if the could carry at work and she agreed with the CHP caveat.
Speaking of unsafe gun handling she currently carries a Glock19 in a Serpa
Stew0576
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Why do you consider this unsafe?
Fine Figure of a Man
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This is what they are doing and I think it is a smart strategy. I hope all 2A supporters will understand that and support the company.
rbernie
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Some folk think that Serpa's aren't the best choice for a striker-fired gun without external/separate safety.
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Looking at what they pay their current employees that are already “putting their life on the line”. I think the extra cash spent on a firearm would be a wise decision.
If my math is right $35/hr, 40 hrs/week with 2 weeks vacation (unpaid) 35x40x50= $70,000. That’s a 42% raise over an assistant manager who’s life would be on the line when he is ordered to open the safe, he can’t open...
Deus Machina
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Well, I'm betting they won't be full-time.
In the last five or ten years, the only full-time workers at any convenience store you're likely to meet at managers.
In the last five or ten years, the only full-time workers at any convenience store you're likely to meet at managers.
Trunk Monkey
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I really don't have a problem with Glocks, I carry Glocks exclusively. It's the Serpa I don't like
Fine Figure of a Man
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Not trying to criticize anyone, the brand of holster or gun and the dollars per hour are not the important part of the story.
This is a company using the right guaranteed by the 2a to protect their property, employees and costumers.
This is a company using the right guaranteed by the 2a to protect their property, employees and costumers.
MTMilitiaman
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Screw that.
I did graveyards at a truck stop for a little over three years, during which time there was a couple of armed robberies at convenience stores a couple miles away, one in which a cashier was shot. My fellow employees discussed the possibility of an armed robbery and every single one of us agreed that it just wasn't worth getting in a gunfight for someone else's money. The family that owns the chain of stores I worked for are millionaires many times over and are among the richest people in our state. We on the other hand made $10/hr.
I completely agree that one has the right to defend themselves and I would if I felt it was necessary or advantageous at the time, but I am not engaging somebody for someone else's money, and you'd have to pay me a lot more than $35 an hr to do so. Now if I thought a friend or coworker was about to be shot, I might intervene. But protecting a cash drawer? Hell no.
Do your best to remain calm, comply with robber's commands, remember as many useful details about the robber, his/her weapon, clothing, language, mannerisms, tattoos, ect, as well as the vehicle they use and the direction it departs, then call the police. Millionaires can deal with the potential loss of $120 much easier than you can deal with a sucking chest wound.
I did graveyards at a truck stop for a little over three years, during which time there was a couple of armed robberies at convenience stores a couple miles away, one in which a cashier was shot. My fellow employees discussed the possibility of an armed robbery and every single one of us agreed that it just wasn't worth getting in a gunfight for someone else's money. The family that owns the chain of stores I worked for are millionaires many times over and are among the richest people in our state. We on the other hand made $10/hr.
I completely agree that one has the right to defend themselves and I would if I felt it was necessary or advantageous at the time, but I am not engaging somebody for someone else's money, and you'd have to pay me a lot more than $35 an hr to do so. Now if I thought a friend or coworker was about to be shot, I might intervene. But protecting a cash drawer? Hell no.
Do your best to remain calm, comply with robber's commands, remember as many useful details about the robber, his/her weapon, clothing, language, mannerisms, tattoos, ect, as well as the vehicle they use and the direction it departs, then call the police. Millionaires can deal with the potential loss of $120 much easier than you can deal with a sucking chest wound.
Speedo66
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That sounds an unreasonable amount of stress after the incident, sorry you had to go through it.
Our association provided an attorney before it went to court to try and block an indictment, and for trial if it became necessary. I was fortunate enough to never have fired a shot in anger in the 40 years I served. On the rare occasions I watch a police drama I always smile. They seem to engage in a gun fight almost every tour.
MTMilitiaman
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The Sherpa has a poorly designed retention mechanism that is prone to failure if introduced with foreign debris and potentially damaged if you find yourself on your back, fighting your way off the ground. It probably isn't the best choice for any handgun, striker fired or not.
DeepSouth
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I once did some work for a guy that owned 3 gas stations, one of which was open 24-7. He told me he lost money in the late night hours, his sole reason for staying open at night was because it got robbed less when someone was there.
Someone, likely an older lady based on his other employees, was working for him to deter criminals for minimum wage, and they didn’t even know it.
I can’t help but think of the potential legal issues if things go south In some way in one of these stores.
Someone, likely an older lady based on his other employees, was working for him to deter criminals for minimum wage, and they didn’t even know it.
I can’t help but think of the potential legal issues if things go south In some way in one of these stores.
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Customers and employees can carry in any legal state, with proper standing as long as the company doesn’t prohibit doing so.
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So... Did the two gals on the right learn that in class? We got two people with three fingers on the trigger!
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