Long range CZ452 22lr and more fun (Pic heavy!)

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So I went out for some shooting this past Sunday. Its been 70F and Sunny for a couple weeks, and I finally got a day to myself to spend out in the field (literally).

I have ~4,500 rounds through my CZ 452 Trainer, but have never taken it beyond 200m (the maximum range the tangent sight can be set for). The rifle is totally stock, but the action has definitely smoothed out A LOT since I first got it. I've been considering one of the ghost-ring inserts for the rear sight and a yo-dave trigger kit, but haven't gotten around to them yet. Anyway, I set up a ~2/3 IPSC torso (roughly 18" high by 12" wide) and proceeded to walk away with a pocketful of Winchester M22 bulk. The rear sight was on the 200m setting. I used a Garmin eTrex 10 GPS to estimate distance +/- 3yd.

Short first-person video of one of the warm-up shots here

~233yd: (From sitting) Difficult, but not too bad. I started out holding way too high, maybe 2ft over the head of the target. But I found that if I held on the top of the 18" high plate, the rounds would connect center of mass-ish.

~255yd: (From sitting) Slightly more challenging, but again, most of it is just figuring out where to hold. I think I was holding maybe ~2ft over the target when I finally got some hits. Slight breezes were really becoming an issue. I also had to remember that my rifle shoots just a tad right.

~285yd: (From prone - no bag, just my elbows in the dirt) Pretty hard, but not like it was at 301. Maybe 3-4ft hold over? Pretty good success, but not nearly as good as 255 and closer.

~301yd: (Tried sitting, but failed. Planted elbows again.) WOW :what: :eek: Extremely difficult. I was recording video of my attempts thus far, but when I had no success after 15 rounds at this range I turned the camera off. Of course, thats when I got 3 hits in a row :banghead: I was holding something like 5 or 6 feet over the target. Lots of rounds were really close! I didn't struggle with the wind much at all as by now things had really calmed down. Shots were usually low, directly in front of the plate.

Anyway, what I'm trying to show here is that the 22lr is plenty capable of hitting less-than-torso sized targets beyond 200 yards. Although I show a picture of the rifle resting on a backpack, all of my long-range shooting with the 22lr was from practical positions with no support other than what Icould get from my knees and/or the ground. If you have a 22, definitely try stretching its legs! You might be suprised at what you and your rifle can do.

I probably could have hit more if I had a scope, bipod, bag, etc. But what's the fun in that? Way more satisfying to score hits the old-fashioned way :D


And now for some pics! Eastern Washington State is a beautiful part of the country.

The drive in before dropping into the range in the ravine to the left:
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One of my favorite rifles of all time, the CZ 452 Trainer:
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Getting warmed up at 185 yards. The steel plate is at the bottom of the blonde hill in the center of the frame, but its out of focus:
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Somehow I managed to grab only CZ rifles on the way out the door :rolleyes: who can blame me when they make such fine pieces:

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Obligatory sunset pic. CZ550 American and my noble fun-mobile:
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Neat. We use to shoot prairie dogs with 22 long rifle out to just beyond 200 yards, as it was less expensive than center fire ammunition. Granted, the spectacular results one would get with a Vmax at much higher velocities were absent, but the hits were audible and we connected quite often.

22 long rifle is a great little round.
 
TNG;

Hah! The only big differences between us are probably age, and the fact that I have the bolt handles on my CZ's on t'other side of the action.

I don't know where in eastern Washington those pics were taken, but in the overall scheme of things, I'm not all that much further east, maybe 400 road miles, and a good chunk less than that as the crow flies. You even got the right kinda truck too!

I'm fortunate enough to have the range out the back door, not across the state. The gongs are made, and so are the hanging frames, now it's just getting some old conveyor belt and puttin' 'em together. We'll probably set 'em at 6, 7, 8, 9, and 1000 yards. I don't think I'll try to stretch my .22 that far though, but 2 & 3, sounds like I should try it. I've got a lased & witnessed 176 yard one-shot cold barrel kill on a ground squirrel with my 452 American.

900F
 
You know, I had my hands on a CZ Farmer a couple years ago at the gun store. I seriously regret not picking it up now, looking at your Trainer.

I'll just have to make do with my fraternal twin 527's.:p
 
IIRC when a buddy and I were playing with long range .22 LR we were down 48" at 200 and 156" at 300 with the most accurate ammunition we found at that distance.
 
Stubbicatt, it must be a little comical to hear those rounds impact the vermin like that. I don't typically wear ear pro when I'm shooting long-barreled 22s in open spaces - it is not unusual to hear the round hit the dirt 200 yards away. But, my college-age ears probably help with that :neener:

Doc7, the sling would have made things easier for sure. I've been thinking about getting a nice leather one for this rifle, maybe a surplus style like was used on the old K98s (but I'd guess that the leather might be too thick for swivels I have at the moment).

chicharrones, yep, I really feel lucky to live out here. The fields can get a little repetitive but the rivers and various drainages keep things wild. I bet you get to hunt more hogs than I do though, plus you have that glorious bay just down the road!

CB900F, it sounds like it - I guess your parents never told you about your younger twin brother :uhoh:..... I might make it out your way this winter, I'm trying to get a road trip going over break but I'm not sure which direction I want to go yet. Does your rig have the 6.2L Diesel in it? I just picked mine up a few weeks ago for $1500. A little rough on the inside but it starts right up, sounds AWESOME (never had a diesel before and I'm not over the sound yet :evil:) and goes into 4wd. What more could a college kid ask for? I go to school at WSU in Pullman, which puts this spot a tad closer to my homestead than if I still lived in Maple Valley where my "location" says I am. I took these pics about an hour north of Lewiston, ID near Colton, WA. The land owner is very shooter-friendly!

I've been thinking about getting a CZ 455/2 American or Varmint for a scoped rig, but I'm not sure just yet. There's a lot of other "projects" I'd like to fund, and the Trainer is working out real well so far. Somehow I have an itch for a Ruger Vaquero in 45 Colt. I have a bunch of large pistol primers, but nothing to load them into :p ...
 
TNG;

Yeah, an 07 Dura, I got it used but did pay just a tad more than $1,500.00. And OK, missing grandson, between trucks, CZ's, and wheel guns, I think I can get you thoroughly corrupted. Let's see what else? Fast bikes, skiing, and beer, just for starters.

:evil: :D 900F
 
Very cool thread.

I have the 455 trainer and it's my favorite 22. It's the perfect rifle for offhand shooting IMO. Those sights are as good or better than any I've ever used. I'll probably never shoot it past 50 yards though what with these aging eyes and all.

Do well in your studies and shoot more often.
 
I love my 452, but the real reason I am impressed is with that scenery. Wow! I wish I had some place like that to shoot.
 
The_Next_Generation

Three beautiful CZ rifles to go with some equally beautiful scenery! Thanks for sharing.
 
My son just acquired the CZ 452 Ultra Lux for his 9th grade son to use in ROTC. There is actually a shooting club in the high school where he attends, and if you're in ROTC, you can compete in rifle and shotgun training, then competition. He scored 90 (2nd highest in the class) on the written exams, and now the field training at the range. He's ever more excited, as much as his grandpa is! That CZ has a 28" barrel, and rear peep sight. If his performance at my range is any indicator, he'll be needing a trophy case.

@OP---Your shooting is most impressive. At 69, I'm doing well if I can SEE the 18" plates at 200 yards. My shooting at 100 yards is fairly good, with a scope set at 6X or so. ;)
 
Only tried my CZ452 Trainer once at 200 yards. From the bench, got a 4.5" five shot group, about 4" high and 2" left. Stock sight was set at 200 (meters?). My aging eyes had help focusing with a Merit device. Ammo was my go-to stock choice of 38g HP Fed-Am, which has a very good price point to accuracy ratio for my rimfire guns.

Good 50 yard groups are just over an inch for me, so I got lucky and stayed in the zone at 200.

Working off a stance would be more challenging, but I could see your success at longer ranges once you work out the holdover. The CZ is an awesome rifle.
 
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Sweet pictures, great rifles!

Thanks for taking the time to post them. I've never attempted anything beyond 100 yds w/ my .22s... 200 is something to look forward to.

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Thanks for the kind words everyone! I'm happy to share the scenery from our corner of the world.

sappyg (and others): I've heard good things about the J&P replacement blades for the CZ455/2 rifles (link). I'm really considering getting one of the 1/16" versions - even my 21 y/o eyes were getting strained after a while. I think the peep insert will help eliminate this.

Bramage: Man, those 38gr Am. Eagle rounds really do well don't they? I tested some cu-plated rounds when I was out, but the Remington Cyclones shot better in my rifle somehow (roughly .75" at 50yds with a little wind and low-contrast target...just excuses, I know). I ONCE shot a ~1.5" 200 yard 4-shot group with a 16x scope on this rifle using the 38gr cu-plated Am. Eagle hollowpoints though! I've never repeated the feat, but it did happen and I made a thread with a picture of the group on here...just have to go dig for it LOL.

Normandy: I've been lusting over an Ultra Lux for some time now. Do those come with 300m sights? I know the old super-brno versions did, and if the new Ultra Lux rifles come with 300m sights (instead of the 200m ones like the trainer has) then I think that's reason enough to buy one!

viking499: The rifle in the middle is a CZ 527 Varmint with the laminate stock. Its wearing a Leupold VX1 3-9x40 in Warne High 1" rings. It shoots fairly well, but I haven't gotten a load really developed for it yet. I really enjoy the set-trigger. Even in normal mode the trigger is pretty nice, but once it is set that thing breaks real clean. The 1:9 twist is promising for some of the heavier bullets, I might try some 75gr BTHP next time I see some on the shelf. Here's a better pic:
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900F: Alrighty gramps. I'm set on beer (Go Cougs!...heh) and skiing, and I do a bit of cycling but nothing with a motor other than my two legs. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a dual-sport rig of some kind. 400mi east would put you near Helena if I'm not mistaken. Maybe Butte?
 
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TNG;

Over many years of testing, I've found that the Winchester 40 grain PowerPoint ammo has the best terminal performance of any .22 rimfire ammo I've tested yet. Also, if your gun likes to shoot it, it can give you very close to match ammo accuracy. I can shoot MOA at 100 yards with it in my 452 American from the bench.

I'm well stocked with it, but I have been seeing some on store shelves in the $11.00 - 12.00 per hundred price range. If you run across some, don't be afraid to get a box & try it out.

900F
 
I'll have to give it a shot if I see any. I've got around 2.5K of 22lr left, but its a few different types. I was hoping to try some federal automatch and cci minimags for groups, but I didn't get around to it. If I see some of those powerpoints I'll see how they run.

I found the thread with the crazy, one-off group at 200 yards here.

I haven't scrubbed the barrel of this rifle since I bought it, nothing more than a couple passes with a 22cal boresnake maybe once every 200 to 400 shots. Do you scrub your American's bore regularly to maintain accuracy? I'm thinking about putting a scope back on the Trainer to see if it will still do what it used to do at 200 yards since having so many rounds through it, but my guess is that it won't be quite as accurate.

With my centerfire rifles, I like to leave the bore "seasoned" and avoid anything more aggressive than a lightly oiled patch. I've gotten really nice accuracy so far with this method.
 
TNG;

It's not a "given" that your rifle will like to shoot it, but if it does - - -. Or, to put it another way, I had to buy three LH Americans before I got one that did. The one that liked Fed AmEagle got sold, used, but with targets and I didn't lose any money. T'other one got turned into what I believe to be the world's only CZ452 left hand fullstock. And wasn't that an adventure!

900F
 
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Well done, Next_Gen.

I'd say your username bodes well for all of us as recreational shooters. You are certainly a credit to your generation. Hahaha!

:neener: :D :)
 
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