Looking for new 12 gauge

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dbent1856

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I am starting a search for a new 12 gauge. I want an all around gun that I can use for everything from turkeys, pheasant and all types of birds. I also want to shoot clay targets with it.....not competitively, just for fun.
One of my main concerns is recoil. I can handle recoil, I just don't want a gun that's kicks like a .30-06 rifle.

I have been doing some research and have been thinking about the
Beretta xplor series with ko pad
Remington versa max
Browning Maxus

What experience and opinions do you have on these
 
I own the Xplor (green receiver). Mine feed everything from my 3/4oz reloads through all of my other target loads. Since it is my wife's sporting gun, it won't ever see 3 or 3.5 ammo, but the KO system is nice. The KO3 which is on one of their camo models is definitely worth taking a look at.

I can't help you with the other two
 
All 3 guns you listed will do the job and have received good reviews from their owners. Everyone will almost always pimp for their favorite brand. I would advise looking good at them yourself - try handling them - and pick the one you like best.
 
Instead of just handling them, I would encourage you to actually find some and shoot them - whether rented or borrowed - to see what actually works best for you
 
I liked the Beretta A400 when I went through this process last year, but my stubby fingers could not reach the safety mounted in front of the trigger guard.

Remington did a summer tour last year and a rep showed up at the clays club where I shoot and I was able to shoot a round with it. The recoil was very minimal and I shot it very well. It was also a few hundred less than the Beretta. Shortly after that, I picked one up online for $1050 shipped. Mine cycles everything from 3/4 oz at 1200 fps and up. In the last 10 months I have just over 7k through it without a ftf or fte.

It isn't all roses though and I have had a couple issues. Remington QC missed an issue that shouldn't have made it out of the factory. One of the ferrules for the gas port was cross threaded. After a brief call, they told me it was safe to shoot, but posted one to me which I had in under a week. Aside from that at approx round 4,000, a retaining pin worked its way loose and tied up the gun. It locked it up and I had to send it to Remington. They replaced the bolt assembly, hammer, and a bunch of springs in the trigger group. It was fixed and back to me in under a week. I have about 3000 rounds through it since the problem without any issues and am regaining confidence in the gun. It has a 2 year warranty and Remington has been nothing short of spectacular when it comes to service.

If you do end up with a Versamax, do not believe all that bull that you can go thousands of rounds without cleaning. It is a gas gun and gets crudded up. Mine has gone 1000 without cleaning, but it was disgusting and cleaning was much more difficult than if I did it after a few hundred rounds.

If you have any questions about the VM or are in eastern PA, you are more than welcome to give mine a run.
 
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