Looking For Opinions - Vortex VIPER PST GEN II

[JFrank]

Exit pupil isn’t even a thing for br work , I try to run them at full power 60x but that ge needs perfect conditions and still is disappointing. I was comparing scopes today just from the house towards the lookout tower circled. It’s a few miles and perhaps not the best subject but my new scope ( NF comp at 55x ) the tower is clearly seen while the GE has a fuzzy image.

 

[Walkalong]

...,............. I was comparing scopes today just from the house towards the lookout tower circled. It’s a few miles and perhaps not the best subject but my new scope ( NF comp at 55x ) the tower is clearly seen while the GE has a fuzzy image.

As it should be, and what was discussed recently

 

[irishlad]

Me and the grandson like ours. This cow elk not so much .

 

[irishlad]

At the sale prices they can be had at, they are a very good value IMHO, I have two. I have shot PRS matches and NRL-22 with them. They track well, clicks are audible and nice (Have a tiny bit of play when set, so does my XRSII, but it doesn't affect shooting). The parallax will adjust down to 25 yards so they work well for .22 LR.

https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Viper-PST-5-25x50-EBR-2D-MRAD-FFP-PST-5257.aspx

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020648416?pid=872076

Those are the best prices I've seen. Wish I would have paid that.

 

[peeplwtchr]

Hi All-

Just mounted the scope, only to find that it comes with elastic bound scope caps. Anybody had a good experience with specific brands of flip up caps on this or other scopes?

 

[IALoder]

Hi All-

Just mounted the scope, only to find that it comes with elastic bound scope caps. Anybody had a good experience with specific brands of flip up caps on this or other scopes?

I use the vortex defender caps on mine. They fit well and are secure!

 

[Varminterror]

Hi All-

Just mounted the scope, only to find that it comes with elastic bound scope caps. Anybody had a good experience with specific brands of flip up caps on this or other scopes?

Vortex Defender. 270degree flip so they fold flat back against the scope, and they’re rubberized so they aren’t as prone to breakage if they ever do snag, like are some other brands.

I won’t ever buy any flip caps which aren’t 270degree flip, and frankly, I haven’t been motivated to buy anything other than Vortex Defenders for the last ~7yrs. All of my new scopes get them.

 

[peeplwtchr]

I have the exact same scope. The eye relief at high power just plain...sucks....to be plain.

Outside of that, everything else about it is very very good for the money.

I just shot it for the first time today, the only point which I experienced challenging eye relief was when I didn't have my cheek weld adjustment set high enough, could that be a contributor to your difficulties? At max power, with an easily identifiable cheek weld, the scope rocked. Not regretful on the choice until I encounter a scenario I haven't encountered yet.
EDIT: I also had to lengthen the buttstock. I was squirming to find the right adjustments, could it be a rifle fit for your case?

 

[Megawatt maker]

I just shot it for the first time today, the only point which I experienced challenging eye relief was when I didn't have my cheek weld adjustment set high enough, could that be a contributor to your difficulties? At max power, with an easily identifiable cheek weld, the scope rocked. Not regretful on the choice until I encounter a scenario I haven't encountered yet.
EDIT: I also had to lengthen the buttstock. I was squirming to find the right adjustments, could it be a rifle fit for your case?

The eye relief is most definitely less than other brands. I originally bought this scope for one of my 300 RUMS. The awful eye relief would have almost guaranteed I was getting a black eye, or worse. 300 RUM has nasty recoil. Non adjustable stock...and I too had to squirm around to even find a decent sight picture. Simply unacceptable for the rifle it was planned for.

I bought a Leupold HD5 for it instead..and its leaps and bounds better, in all ways. But then too..it's a 900 dollar scope versus the 2400 Leupold.

The PST currently resides in my safe. I like the scope, but not sure what I'm going to do with it now

 

[Varminterror]

The Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x has a spec’d eye relief of 3.4”. The Leupold Mk5HD 5-25x has a spec’d eye relief of 3.6-3.8”.

If .4” is the difference between getting whacked by a scope or not, and you’re getting whacked by any scope with over 3” of eye relief, your head position sucks.

 

[Megawatt maker]

The Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x has a spec’d eye relief of 3.4”. The Leupold Mk5HD 5-25x has a spec’d eye relief of 3.6-3.8”.

If .4” is the difference between getting whacked by a scope or not, and you’re getting whacked by any scope with over 3” of eye relief, your head position sucks.

It may say so on paper..but when the wheels meet the pavement....

The Leupy is superior. End of story.

 

[Varminterror]

It may say so on paper..but when the wheels meet the pavement.

When the wheels meet the pavement and the product fails to meet spec, the intelligent thing to do is contact the OEM. It’s obviously out of spec if you’re that close to the scope, Vortex will replace it, and you’ll have a useful $900 scope (now ~$500 since it’s used and street price has dropped to $600) instead of the equivalent of a boat anchor sitting in your safe.

 

[Walkalong]

I hate a small eye box, and I like my PST Gen II, not to mention it has plenty of eye relief, maybe VT is correct, it's out of spec.

 

[peeplwtchr]

I hate a small eye box, and I like my PST Gen II, not to mention it has plenty of eye relief, maybe VT is correct, it's out of spec.

Out of spec is what I was thinking too, as I looked hard for shortcomings when I used it, and couldn't find anything similar. I'm sure there are better scopes (I buy things for value not name), but mine is fully functional, and has the 3 inch eye relief as stated in the manual. The first person that told me to get this model is an ex-LEO sniper, and he has a couple of these too.

 

[Walkalong]

Found a pic of me shooting the PST Gen II in an NRL-22 match, looks like plenty of eye relief.

 

[peeplwtchr]

Found a pic of me shooting the PST Gen II in an NRL-22 match, looks like plenty of eye relief.
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You have an adjustible cheek riser too; I needed to crank mine up med to high. I'm 6"4, long neck.

Scope ring height is always a consideration too. Out of spec, or gun configuration are my two initial conclusions on his issues.

 

[Megawatt maker]

You have an adjustible cheek riser too; I needed to crank mine up med to high. I'm 6"4, long neck.

Scope ring height is always a consideration too. Out of spec, or gun configuration are my two initial conclusions on his issues.

OmG...you guys are way overthinking my "so called" problem.

It's a custom built on a Rem 700 action, thumbhole stock..with cheek rest carved into the stock. 34 inch Krieger heavy Palma barrel. This requires extra high rings...and with the 30mm Vortex PST...it just doesn't work. I have to squirm my head around to get a good sight picture. The Leupold 35mm just works better for the application.

There is NOTHING wrong with the scope. I simply do not like it on this particular rifle.

Someday..when I feel like it and get around to it...I'll mount it up on an AR..or something with an adjustable cheek rest.

Thanks guys..but I got this one figured long ago.

 

[Walkalong]

There is NOTHING wrong with the scope. I simply do not like it on this particular rifle.

 

[Varminterror]

There is NOTHING wrong with the scope. I simply do not like it on this particular rifle.

Yet you made these claims in the thread, blaming the scope, stating it has insufficient eye relief. So you can’t really fault us for troubleshooting the problem you described:

I have the exact same scope. The eye relief at high power just plain...sucks....to be plain.

The eye relief is most definitely less than other brands. I originally bought this scope for one of my 300 RUMS. The awful eye relief would have almost guaranteed I was getting a black eye, or worse. 300 RUM has nasty recoil.

I’m glad we’ve grounded out that, in fact, the Vortex doesn’t have short eye relief, but rather you have a poor fitting stock and wedge your head into poor position behind it, rather than incorrectly turning other shooters away from a quality optic which is currently selling at a killer price, making it a considerable value to purchase.

 

[peeplwtchr]

I didn't feel comfortable saying it, but I can't draw any other conclusion, just trying to help.

 

[Megawatt maker]

Yet you made these claims in the thread, blaming the scope, stating it has insufficient eye relief. So you can’t really fault us for troubleshooting the problem you described:





I’m glad we’ve grounded out that, in fact, the Vortex doesn’t have short eye relief, but rather you have a poor fitting stock and wedge your head into poor position behind it, rather than incorrectly turning other shooters away from a quality optic which is currently selling at a killer price, making it a considerable value to purchase.

Lighten up Francis.

It does have less eye relief. I stand by that statement. If its enough for others, fine.

It wasn't for me, especially of that rifle.

You can take or leave, do whatever you want, disregard or ignore, or disagree.

That is my observation with this scope.