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looking to identify year of manufacture black powder shotgun

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Roger Laird, Apr 17, 2018.

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  1. Roger Laird

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    I recently purchased a percussion black powder shotgun and would like to determine how old it is.It is marked MANTON on the side plate. IMG_4829.JPG IMG_4830.JPG IMG_4831.JPG IMG_4829.JPG IMG_4830.JPG IMG_4831.JPG IMG_4832.JPG IMG_4833.JPG IMG_4834.JPG IMG_4835.JPG IMG_4836.JPG IMG_4838.JPG IMG_4839.JPG
     
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    The proofmarks on the bottom of the barrel indicate English manufacture. "Manton" would be John Manton of London. Nice 13 bore (similar to gauge) single barrel shotgun. Made prior to the Civil War, probably 1825 -1830. John died in 1834.
     
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  3. PapaG

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    Not likely during that time.....percussion wasn't widespread if even in use til the 30's. Mantons were made longer than John was alive.
     
  4. Roger Laird

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    Alexnder Forsyth's original patent on the percussion ignition expired in 1822, and if I remember correctly, Manton began producing percussion guns almost immediately. It was so quick, that many urged Forsyth to file a patent infringment lawsuit, but he did not.
     
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    My bad. 1820 is what my reference notes as the date of the invention.
     
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    Joseph Manton could also be a possibility.
     
  7. Roger Laird

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    that is what I was wondering,if this gun was English manufacture or Belgiun, Later on they were proofed in Birmingham but manufactured in Belgium
     
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