M&P 40 magazine safety?

[jonboynumba1]

Found a great deal on a used one...I like the gun quite a bit. It has a stupid magazine safety though....is it possible to get parts to un-safety it or otherwise render it non-magazine safetied? Just wondering...I know they sell them with and without it. It's an S&W M&P 40 fullsize with no thumb safety.

I just hate that one feature!

 

[Gary G23]

It's a very easy fix. I did it on my carry gun. I used a 1911 mag catch spring and cut it down to size.

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/M&P2.htm

ETA: Speed Shooter Specialties sells a Mag Safety Deactivation Spring.
http://www.speedshooterspecialties....357&searchterm=Performance Accessories&cnt=12

 

[wyocarp]

I don't like it either, but in reality, do you plan on shooting it without a magazine?

And at this point, someone is going to say, but what if you are in hand-to-hand combat with someone and you by accident hit the magazine release. Well, I hope that one round will help you.

 

[jonboynumba1]

I was thinking more PITA for dry fire drills and practice...but I guess that could happen


thanks for that link BTW...that is exactly what I needed! cool!

 

[bigfatdave]

It is NOT a safety, it is an interlock.
Please don't call features like that a "safety", any more than an internal lock.

 

[basicblur]

I just hate that one feature!

Jest curious as to why you hate it?

Makes little difference to me one way or the other. I recently made an impulse buy on an M+P 357 SIG Police Package (used, never fired), which came with the magazine safety. From what I understand, 'bout 45% of 'em sold to LE agencies have the magazine safety.

As a civvie, I could probably do without it, but I think if I was in LE, I'd think long & hard 'bout not getting it.

I've heard a number of folks that "don't like" the magazine safety that are apparently basing their dislike on the old Browning High Powers-'think they're the only one with a magazine safety that directly affected trigger pull.

I'll haff to look, but one benefit of having the magazine safety on the M+P I bought is they didn't plaster the CAUTION: Gun can be fired with magazine removed warning on the frame!

 

[jonboynumba1]

my basic thought on the matter is more to go wrong and dissable the gun...perfect example is my buds Kimber Custom II ....he has one of the high dollar special versions....forget the name....it has that stupid firingpin safety (sorry dave LOCK! LOL . It still has a nice trigger pull. He went 4-wheeling a month or two back and got dumped in the mud (AL. mud!) and so after taking the grips off we slipped it into the diptank to soak for a bit before diaassembly and "degunking" -he racked it a few times in the field and found it duely "gummed up and hopeless" We spent an hour getting it apart...problems I've never seen in a 1911...ended up being a grain or rock/sand jamming the arm on the FP lock. I've NEVER had an issue like that with a standard 1911 (the only 80 series we have is bosses "de-80'ed" buildup) In the smith M&P w/ILS I could just see that arm breaking off and rendering the gun unable to fire. If I was a LEO the idea I could dump the mag and dissable my sidearm might hold some limited apeal...but for CC I don't see an upside...just something else to break/more parts....and a PITA for dryfire drills. But that's why they make 32 flavors...that feature has probably sold some guns for them in both cases...but not to me.

I bought a Sig sigpro 9mm instead for the same price w/ night sights. Had about 2 mags through it from new! Just ordered a one piece stainless guiderod for it to replace the plastic one. Happy camper!

 

[Fremmer]

My guess is that I don't think you'll really notice the mag safety. Smith and Wesson have had those on thier semi auto's for years, so they know how to make them. If it significantly affected the trigger, I might say no, but with a stock M&P, I'd probably go ahead and get it. Unless someone with M&P expertise (who has actually shot both versions ) comes in here and says that the mag safety does significantly affect trigger feel and function.

 

[Hangingrock]

Personally I believe it to be a good feature. I’ve had an S&W 4506 with this feature for over two decades now. One may leave a round in the chamber and remove the magazine to a different storage location. My S&W MP9 has the same feature also.

 

[bigfatdave]

Personally I believe it to be a good feature. I’ve had an S&W 4506 with this feature for over two decades now. One may leave a round in the chamber and remove the magazine to a different storage location.

Yeah, just toss that gun into a preschool, since it is so very safe!

A mechanical interlock can't replace safe gun handling, but it can build bad habits when idiots assume the interlock will always work or forget which guns have or do not have the interlock.

 

[valorius]

I would be stunned if S&W magazine safeties have not prevented hundreds, if not thousands, of ND's over the years.

A LOT of accidents occur when people take the mag out and think the chamber is empty. I had a S&W 59/6906 hybrid for many years, and i never minded that feature at all.

 

[Hangingrock]

bigfatdave: A mechanical interlock can't replace safe gun handling, but it can build bad habits when idiots assume the interlock will always work or forget which guns have or do not have the interlock.

I am neither an idiot nor do I practice unsafe fire arms storage or handling practices. So let us simply agree to disagree and maintain civility.

I’ll admit to having to deal with idiots on forums. I sincerely hope you are not one. But if that would be the case I’ll simply use the ignore feature that I presume this forum has.

 

[surfinUSA]

Although I prefer Glocks, Sigs and Berettas, I have owned and carried S&W guns with magazine safeties and have no problem with it.

Like most cops, I'd like to think I'm a tough guy (I'm not), but when your fighting for your gun with some ****bag thats 20 years younger than you, its nice to know you can hit the mag release and disable the gun, go for your back up and put an abrupt end to that bad gene pool.

Since I carry a back up, I don't really worry about a subject rushing me in the middle of a reload. I to believe the mag safety has prevented a number NDs from the careless and uninformed.

 

[wow6599]

A side note - it doesn't effect the trigger at all....like it would on a BHP.

 

[41magsnub]

I disabled mine, put the parts in a little baggie to reinstall if I ever sell it.

 

[Boris bush]

I love it on my P22! My 7YO is the primary shooter of that gun now and I like knowing the one mag I bring is in my pocket when he is shooting one of his long guns. On a working gun I prefer it NOT be on it though. I have no problem with them in the slightest if someone wants or needs it..

 

[postalnut25]

I could do without the magazine safety. It hampers dry-fire practice.

 

[Boris bush]

I could do without the magazine safety. It hampers dry-fire practice.

On that note. It might increase the chance of a ND. If someone wanted to dry fire practice and put the wrong mag in to do it.....

 

[postalnut25]

So true. Without the magazine safety, you would do your dry-fire practice without a magazine. If the magazine is not inserted, there is no chance of chambering a round when you didn't want to.