Mail Order Ammo Sales Stopped in MA!!!

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The Massachusetts AG is at it again.

http://www.goal.org/mailorder.htm

"Mail Order Ammunition Sales Issues

Have you tried to buy ammunition through the mail from an out of state vendor recently? GOAL members who attempted this have been repeatedly told that ?It?s against the law to ship to Massachusetts? and ?the law changed recently?.

Several companies specializing in catalog sales have made a business decision not to sell to Massachusetts because they find it nearly impossible to understand our convoluted state laws OR because they did not have the software to keep up with such sales. These companies have concluded that they should verify that purchasers have a license to carry or FID card. But they don?t have the capability of accepting a phone order, putting that order on hold, and matching it up with a piece of mail that comes in a week later. It?s a logistical nightmare that larger companies just can?t handle.

But what about this ?the law changed recently? rumor that has surfaced? In fact, the ?new? problem with internet and mail order sales has been created by the Massachusetts Attorney General, who is relying on his interpretation of certain sections of Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998, a law that is five years old. Our Attorney General recently conducted sting operations on selected out of state dealers, purchasing ammunition from internet sales sites and then serving the vendors with ?five day letters? asking for a $5000 fine per transaction for allegedly ?breaking? our state?s laws.

At issue are several questions such as whether an out of state vendor must be licensed to sell ammunition, where such sales are taking place, and what is the proper legal way for these sales to happen. Negotiations between lawyers, vendors and the AG?s office are ongoing.

In the meantime, the Gun Control Advisory Board may be considering a regulation to clarify what the process should be. GOAL is working to ensure that both in-state and out-of-state vendors have input into this process.
Given all of the above facts, many ammunition vendors are currently reluctant to sell in Massachusetts. We ask that you be patient with them while the lawyers sort it all out.
 
This sounds like an inter state commerce issue to me.

AFAIK, If I ship you a California legal widget and you live in Massachusets where CA legal widgets are not legal, the one committing a crime is the person in MA who does the ordering.

MA has no jurisdiction to fine or tax people in other states.
 
But, if you KNOW that its against the law in the other state then it could be construed as aiding etc. That's why they are always asking you to sign those internet ammo sale waivers. So the question then becomes did the seller know? How is the seller supposed to be informed of a change in the law? I'm no lawyer, I'm just making this stuff up as I type.

Elliot
 
Perhaps.

This is definately one for the Assault Lawyers, but I would also wonder - is someone from TX responsible for upholding the laws of MA?

I am not sure the ban on mail order ammo is even legal. If mail is legal in MA and ammo is legal in MA, then banning mail order ammo would actually be an attempt to regulate interstate commerce.

They might have a point if - say you were selling porn to UT (where most porn is illegal AFAIK). But in this situation, it looks like one state is just trying to hurt a business that is in another state.
 
the Gun Control Advisory Board may be considering a regulation to clarify what the process should be.

That waste of tax dollars can F.O.A.D. Sorry, but that's how I feel. They don't need to clarify anything, they can just go away. Go find another job. Get a life. Do something productive instead of messing with people's lives. Go away and leave people alone. Glad I don't live in that hellhole. This Attorney General has no life. Isn't there crime out there that he should be worrying about instead?
 
the Gun Control Advisory Board

Can you imagine the outcry if there was a Speech Control Advisory Board or a Religion Control Advisory Board? I guess some rights are more equal than others.
 
One of the problems is that in the People's Commonwealth one must have the appropriate state license to possess and buy firearms AND ammo. If a company sells ammo to someone who is not so licensed, the AG theoretically could press charges.

Can you believe that this is the state (colony) where the American Revolution started when the British government attempted to confiscate ammunition form the colonists?
 
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