Making a 366 Rigby

[Ryden]

I've not read much of Poul Anderson, I remember a book about a solider who ended up in viking age Iceland.
He thought he could use his knowledge of the future to be s big man, but it didn't work out.

My favorite viking scifi would be The Technicolor Time Machine, but then Harri Harrison always wrote with humor.

I don't remember who wrote abut Space Vikings but there were a few books.

If This Goes On is a favorite, but for a more arcane reason, I have a good feeling about the craft still being worked in the future.

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

I've not read much of Poul Anderson, I remember a book about a solider who ended up in viking age Iceland.
He thought he could use his knowledge of the future to be s big man, but it didn't work out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Came_Early Piper did something similar in his Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen.

My favorite viking scifi would be The Technicolor Time Machine, but then Harri Harrison always wrote with humor.

It's been awhile since I read his Stainless Steel Rat series. Did you know he started out as a comic book artist with the old EC label in the 1950s?

I don't remember who wrote abut Space Vikings but there were a few books.

H. Beam Piper probably did it first and best:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20728
https://librivox.org/space-viking-by-h-beam-piper/

 

[Ryden]

Yes of course he did i remember the sword worlds, I practiced kendo for many years so anything with swords is good


I liked the Lord Calvan series, I'm missing the final book though

Had no idea about the comics, you have biggified my eddyfication

 

[Ryden]

We are getting way afield here

Then just keep on going, the sky is the limit as far as I'm concerned and it's my thread.

I recognize Mr Walker and have two suggestions for that pair but none fits perfectly. The guy in grey leather doesn't ring any bells.

 

[Jim Watson]

The mismatched pair are Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser; the guy in grey leather is Kimball Kinnison, "the most competent entity in the galaxy."

 

[Ryden]

Ah, that was one of my guesses only Fafhrd is a barbarian, not a viking so i got confused.
Kimball Kennison is new to me, I just googled and discovered a new universe to read, thank you for that!

My other guess involved a small guy with a big mustache and a big guy in striped pants, but there ought to have been a dog as well so I figured that pair unlikely

 

[Jim Watson]

I saw Fafhrd depicted with a horned helmet, so I called him a Viking.
There were recognizable characters from other fictons, but it has been a long time since I was there.

I think H. Beam Piper was the writer most knowledgeable about firearms in the business. Some of the modern intrigue and adventure stories read like the author has a catalog of guns to cite make, model, and calibre from, but no real depth of experience.

I no longer have the books, but I think Pappy Jack was carrying a 9.x suitable for Damnthing when he met Little Fuzzy. And he had 10mm pistols long before Dixon and Dornaus.

 

[Ryden]

I think only Poul Anderson would recognize the difference.

Clive Cussler would be an example, it feels like he picks them from the Gun Digest of the year or simply invent what the story needs.
There's never just a plain shotgun or a used Glock 17. It's always a vintage Thompson or a rare suppressed MP5 made for the GSG 9 top secret hit squad "The Pretzel Eaters" och a CW Gatling gun with nitroglycerin filled bullets or something like that.

I like his books anyway, I have a tall well read stack in the summer house

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

John Varley's recent "Thunder and Lightning" series has some pretty good stuff in it -- readable, lots of Heinlein references in it, and one of the space ships in the series is christened 'Second Amendment'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Thunder_(novel)

Though not necessarily a gun guy, Roger Zelazny took his time when he referenced real tech in his stories. In his lengthy Amber series, the primary protagonist Corwin discovers a compound that performs as gunpowder in Amber but on Earth is totally inert. Naturally he contracts with Interarmco for ammunition production and arms -- I can picture Sam Cummings being crazy enough to produce inert ammo as long as he got paid! My two favorite Zelazny novels are Roadmarks and Doorways in the Sand.

I think H. Beam Piper was the writer most knowledgeable about firearms in the business.

I'm still waiting for my Akor-Neb (Last Enemy) handgun to hit the market: 10 grain bullets at 10,000 fps!

Yes of course he did i remember the sword worlds, I practiced kendo for many years so anything with swords is good

I did five years of foil fencing -- they didn't offer kendo at CSU Fresno until years after I graduated.

 

[Ryden]

I always wanted to try my shinai against a foil, if we ever get together I'll bring it along

Today I spotted a 1928 Rigby in .275 for sale here in Sweden, 50 000 SEK is a bit steep for me though, that's $4 905 by today's rate.


I'm clearly not far off. I need to round off the front of the forend which I've been thinking of anyway but now it's decided.


That's 200 rounds of ammo in clips in there, I could squeeze in another clip in each pocket or some loose cartridges but there's no point in that. I've tried to imagine how I'd carry 10 magazines of 7.62 as convenient but I don't think it could be done

It's heavy, but I could carry it easily enough if the ZA really happens.
For anything less I'd probably just fill my pockets with clips or carry half in the bandolier and the rest in the backpack.

I've never really considered bringing a rifle if we ever had to bug out, might bring a shotgun or the combination gun.

 

[Jim Watson]

It's heavy, but I could carry it easily enough if the ZA really happens.

Literary reference. One of Robert Ruark's African adventures, the PWH said that a .404 Jeffery was a bit much for Mau Mau but the .35 Marlin left behind by a client, a nothing gun on game, was about right for "a terr in the bush."

 

[Ryden]

I can imagine.

Just had a thought, is there a .202 caliber rifle?

The Brits have 303 British, 404 Jeffrey and 505 Gibbs. Presumably 101 is a tad small but 202 should be doable and 606 would be nice for T-rex and mammoth.

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

I always wanted to try my shinai against a foil, if we ever get together I'll bring it along

I'd better lose about 40 Kg before then. Otherwise my fencing form will resemble Sidney Greenstreet rather than Basil Rathbone.

Today I spotted a 1928 Rigby in .275 for sale here in Sweden, 50 000 SEK is a bit steep for me though, that's $4 905 by today's rate.

Beautiful rifle -- shame about the price! Does that 50K include VAT?

BTW, all four of my grandparents were Danes; my dad was still fairly fluent in the language. Just had a visit by my Danish cousin Erik. He has a Swedish 'wife' (not sure whether they ever officially married due to tax problems, but they've two grown boys now) -- they own property in both countries, on either side of the Øresund.

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

... and 606 would be nice for T-rex and mammoth.

See L. Sprague de Camp's short story, A Gun for Dinosaur. They did a so-so radio adaptation back in 1956 that's in the public domain now:

 

[Ryden]

Nå, det var sjovt ti høre!

My fathers grandfather on his mothers side (this is so much easier to express in Swedish) was a sea captain from Vejle in Denmark but that dosen't help understanding in the least
My doctor claims Danish is a throat decease rather than a language.

There's no VAT on private sales, otherwise VAT is always included in prices aimed at the general public.
Only B2B sales are allowed to show prices exclusive VAT.

Don't worry about getting in shape, I resemble Buddha more than Musashi myself

I have to look up som more SdC books, I've collected a huge epub library but not much of him.

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

Nå, det var sjovt ti høre!

Du mener læse (according to Google translate -- I just understand English and bad English)

My fathers grandfather on his mothers side (this is so much easier to express in Swedish) was a sea captain from Vejle in Denmark but that dosen't help understanding in the least

Our great-grands were kinda-sorta neighbors: dad's family hails from a French Huguenot colony in Fredericia (hence the surname.)

Mom's family came from the wilds of Vendsyssel. When her dad arrived in the USA, his full name was Jens Bach Neilsen Hansen Friestrup; he soon shortened it to James Beck.

My doctor claims Danish is a throat decease rather than a language.

I've heard it described as like speaking Swedish while choking on a fishbone. About all the Danish I know are names for a few traditional dishes and the number tyve because it gets used so much.

I have to look up som more SdC books, I've collected a huge epub library but not much of him.

I wrote to him about permission to quote from A Gun For Dinosaur in a project later abandoned; he sent me a very nice, and fairly lengthy reply -- the letter is still in my files somewhere.

 

[troy fairweather]

When my grandmother spoke Welsh, I could not understand a thing. Most languages you can understand a word or two, not Welsh lol.

Wish I knew these books your taking about, they sound like a good read. I always liked sifi and dinosaur movies, never read books about that stuff tho.

Ryden I know you can hunt moose over there, what are some of the other game animal's your allowed to hunt.

 

[DocRock]

My doctor claims Danish is a throat decease rather than a language.

That's Dutch.

Danish is just Norwegian spoken backward by people with no teeth and mouth full of hot potatoes...

 

[Ryden]

Yes, strictly speaking, but it's more of a fixed expression. At least here, I'm by no means an expert in Danish.

Speaking swedish while choking on a fishbone while having two boiled eggs in your cheeks and being mindbogglingly drunk would be nearer to the mark I think.

I sat in the dentist's waiting room and browsed through a magazine and found an item that stated that Danish children learn to speak on average seven months after the other nordic countries, apparently because they can't understand what their parents are saying. (For real)

Dutch is an other matter entirely, it's incomprehensible in an entirely unique way.
Except for anything relating to boats

I have a Dutch friend who got a free sailboat.
For those who don't know, that's the most expensive kind, and he wanted to learn the swedish terms.

I made up a glossary of four pages with words that were exactly the same or just spelled differently.

 

[Ryden]

I took a course in Celtic languages once, mostly to be able to stay on as a student and drink cheap beer, and found them to be fascinatingly strange, a word with thirteen consonants is pronounced with only vowels for example, and Welsh was by far the most beautiful.

But totally incomprehensible.

 

[Ryden]

Where my plot of land is there's moose and roedeer, wild boar have exploded the last fifteen years and has become the main game.
Then there's hare and fox and rabbits, pine marten for trapping and beaver, mostly for the castor sacs used to flavor booze. Badgers if you think they need to be hunted, I don't really.

I don't do much bird hunting but there would be capercaillie, black grouse and woodcock, doves and pigeons and various ducks and geese.

In the south and central parts of Sweden there's red deer and fallow deer, basically where the big estates of the nobility was.

If we keep going north there's wolf, this is an infected issue, and bear and the smaller grouses as well. I don't think there's any wild reindeer, they're all owned by the Sapmi.

There's also a small herd of musk ox but they're strictly off limits I think you can hunt them in Norway though.

The big thing is the moose hunt.
Hunting rights develop on the ownership of the land, but moose is hunted on bigger areas with many landowners.

So your basically a member of a moose hunting team that hunts together and the meat is shared accordingly to the amount of land that you own (usually).

Taking a week off from work to go moose hunting is considered perfectly normal.

 

[Ryden]

Today was open day at the skeet range and since it's been a long while since I last did some wing shooting I took my shotgun and spent a day getting instruction.

I rely should do this more often, it's FUN!

200 shots make themselves felt now but it's not really bruising and from shot 100 to 170-ish I nailed almost everything. The last box was simple clays just for the sake of it. I was getting really tired.

I brought the rifle with me to see how it'd shoot.

Shooting supported is no fun at all, it'll slap you up something fierce in the cheek.
But I think it's due to sitting hunched over it and squeezing down to line up the sights.

At 100 meters the front bead is just a hair wider than the target, I had to take my aim judging the top strip of the paper visible above the bead.

In hindsight I should have balanced the target on the bead, but I wanted to see where the point of impact was.

It's 6" high


Shooting off hand is something else entirely.
No slapping, only a firm punch on the shoulder. You can tell there's a big chunk of lead going the other way, but it's no worse than a stiff 3" shell.

This is five quick rounds from 50 meters, that's good enough for the running moose target if I can only lower the impact.

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

Today was open day at the skeet range and since it's been a long while since I last did some wing shooting I took my shotgun and spent a day getting instruction.

Wow, someone who has been outside to play this week! My wife's sis just broke a 21-day stretch without leaving her condo.

Wish I knew these books your taking about, they sound like a good read. I always liked sifi and dinosaur movies, never read books about that stuff tho.

Troy, here's a couple of the good ones:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-lis...?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1586101687&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-lis...ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1586101739&sr=8-13

Dutch is an other matter entirely, it's incomprehensible in an entirely unique way.
Except for anything relating to boats

My uncle first encountered Dutch in 1944, during a US Army all expenses paid tour through western Europe. He said spoken Dutch doubled him over in laughter: it was equal thirds English, Danish and German, all three of which he knew. He said he could understand almost perfectly when Dutch was spoken at him, but of course had no idea which combination of words to reply with.

Most languages you can understand a word or two, not Welsh lol.

Those musical Welsh pronunciations probably don't help. To quote Edmund Blackadder, "You need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to pronounce the place names. Never ask for directions in Wales ... You'll be washing spit out of your hair for a fortnight."

 

[Ryden]

That's a very apt description of Dutch, I can read it on the same premises but I lack enough phlegm to talk it

Sweden is not in lockdown yet, only can't be more than 50 in a crowd, so life goes on as normal as it can.
We're not very crowded normally so that's not much trouble.

Denmark and Norway are in lockdown but that's a political decision, not a medical.

Both their ministries of health have recommended the same approach as we have but the people demanded action.

Hopefully our economy will survive a bit better than theirs.

The big cities have a stricter attitude though

 

[troy fairweather]

Wow, someone who has been outside this week! My wife's sis just broke a 21-day stretch without leaving her condo.




Troy, here's a couple of the good ones:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-lis...?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1586101687&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-lis...ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1586101739&sr=8-13




My uncle first encountered Dutch in 1944, during a US Army all expenses paid tour through western Europe. He said spoken Dutch doubled him over in laughter: it was equal thirds English, Danish and German, all three of which he knew. He said he could understand almost perfectly when Dutch was spoken at him, but of course had no idea which combination of words to reply with.



Those musical Welsh pronunciations probably don't help. To quote Edmund Blackadder, "You need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to pronounce the place names. Never ask for directions in Wales ... You'll be washing spit out of your hair for a fortnight."

Thanks I'll check them out, I liked that gun for dinosaurs radio bit. My uncle was in the Welsh choirs, every year or so they would be in N.Y. So we would go down to see him.