Michigan Senate approves self-defense bills

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Michigan Senate approves self-defense bills
6/6/2006, 12:07 p.m. ET
By DAVID EGGERT
The Associated Press

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The state Senate approved legislation Tuesday aimed at fortifying and clarifying self-defense rights in Michigan.

The measures would allow people to use deadly force, with no duty to retreat, if they reasonably think they face imminent death, great bodily harm or sexual assault. They could use deadly force on their property or anywhere they have a legal right to be.

The legislation also would protect people from civil lawsuits if they have used force in self-defense.


The six-bill package is backed by the National Rifle Association but opposed by anti-gun groups. The Senate voted 28-10 and 30-8 to pass two bills, and plans to pass the other bills in the package Wednesday.

Critics of the legislation have said it is dangerous and not needed because prosecutors already do not charge a person who has justifiably used deadly force to protect themselves.

"We're creating a wild west mentality in this state and I oppose it," said Sen. Liz Brater, an Ann Arbor Democrat who voted against the bills.

But Sen. Alan Cropsey, a DeWitt Republican and sponsor of one bill, cited a case where an Eaton County woman was sued after defending her husband during an attack. She won the suit but incurred legal expenses.

"This type of nonsense needs to end," said Cropsey, adding that much of the legislation codifies existing judge-made law.

Two bills now go to the House, which already has approved earlier versions of some bills.

Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm has expressed concerns that the scope of the House legislation was too broad.

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The self-defense bills are House Bills 5142-43, 5153 and 5548; and Senate Bills 1046 and 1185.


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Won't fly in Michigan...

...As long as we have a lawyer Governor. Those prohibited lawsuits will cost her buddies too much easy money...


We could also use a 'Loser pays' law. Bring suit and lose, you pay all fees, yours and theirs.
 
Don't count them out yet, jenny is facing a strong conservative and she doesn't take strong stands, especially in the face of the election this fall. It wouldn't hurt to write her..
 
Jenny has signed every pro-gun related legislation that has made it to her. Granted, this legislation has received more attention. She is not doing well in the polls, so she may respond to pressure.

...As long as we have a lawyer Governor. Those prohibited lawsuits will cost her buddies too much easy money...

Not true, at all. There are plenty of attorneys, including myself, that support this legislation.
 
MY Senator, Michelle McManus, voted yea on every single bill required for the Castle Doctrine.
If she runs for Governor, she's got my vote.

I wanted to share an awe-inspiring excerpt from Sen Scott's protest to a couple of these bills, as logged in the legislative record.
Don’t get me wrong, we must protect ourselves and our families from harm or any wrongdoing, but let’s get serious about keeping our children safe. They need responsible adults in the Michigan Legislature to help protect them from irresponsible adults who care for them.

Don't you get it? It's for the children!

It's - For - The - Children - !!!!

I wonder how many Michigan parents will be voting for Scott's re-election?

I'm e-mailing the Governor now.
 
She's going to have the helmet law bill in front of her shortly, too. I believes she intends to veto that one

General feeling is that she'll sign these SYG bills. They passed with enough votes to override a veto, and she'll lose some of the supporters she's gained over the past few years if she refuses.
 
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