Mikey Moore on Wesley Clark

[gburner]

Michael Moore is a corpulent bug-fest that lives at the intersection of arrogance and deceit. Why anyone would pay attention to anything this pompous ??? has to say is beyond me.

Wesley Clark is an egomaniacal psuedo-soldier who is nothing more than
the Clinton's 'boy' in this race. He was inserted into the fray with the hope that he would dilute the strength of the leading candidates, making it easier for Bush to win a second term so Hillary doesn't have to worry about a Democrat incumbent in 2008.

As with his career in Europe, Clark doesn't seem up to this task either.

 

[Russ]

Mikey obvuously misspoke. Instead of "peacenik" he meant to say "pignick"

 

[Daniel T]

... he will sign into law a bill to create a federal ballistics fingerprinting database for every gun in America...

Ha. Ha ha. HAWHAHWHAHWHWHAHAH. *wheeze*

Every gun in America. Right. The money that would take would make the cost of the war in Iraq look like pocket change.

 

[nico]

Demise, but it's for the children so no financial cost is too high:banghead:

 

[RobW]

He will make the rich pay their fair share of taxes

Yeah, we'll start with the loudmouth Hollywood Moorons.

 

[Stealth101]

Lets not forget Wesleys ties to the Waco debacle.....
As adjudant General at Fort Hood it is more than likely, that he authorised the use of military armor and personnel...ie the Delta Force members in civilian clothing,that were advising theBATF and the FBI on their "attack"on the Branch Davidians..........
How could M&M support a murderer?

I for one , liked one of his early "documentaries" called "Roger and Me"
From there on he lost me!

 

[nico]

stealth, iirc "roger and me" had some of the same credibility issues that bowling for columbine had. ie: changing the sequence of events to make the story better, filming people who had nothing to do with the factories getting evicted and implying that they lost their job at the factory, etc.

 

[Stealth101]

nico..........
I didnt know that it was flawed also! It seemed to have the right appeal at the time.................

 

[nico]

neither did I. I saw it and thought it was pretty good. After I saw bowling for columbine I looked around for info about where moore had lied/misled and also found some info about accuracy questions with Roger and Me. Michael Moore tries to come off as a bumbling idiot in his movies who just happens to be making perfectly normal conclusions. But I think he's a pretty smart person who is pretty good at warping the truth and making people think that he's telling them exactly what things are like. IMO, that's why we should pay attention to what he says, even though we don't give it any credibility. If he were allowed to say everything he says without anyone refuting it, it could influence a lot of people who's feelings are toward the middle with respect to firearms. In all honesty, if what he says in Bowling for Columbine were 100% true, who could argue against more gun control?

 

[Deepdiver]

Methinks the best use for Michael Moore is to render him down. Then use the results to grease the tracks on the next battalion of M1 Abrams tanks that gets deployed to defend the freedom of him and the rest of his shallow thinking brethren. At least that way he would be contributing something of value to this country.

...or should I quit holding back and tell you how I really feel about Mr. Moore ??

 

[labgrade]

"So what did you just say; or was that labonics?"

Labonics is a new one to me, jim.

All I said was double +-good-speak.

Hand firmly grasped upon the wheel .....

 

[Master Blaster]

I seem to recall that the 19 year old Girl who bought the shotgun for Klebold and Harris at a gun show did so from a licensed dealer and since she had no record she of course passed the background check. The other firearms were purchased illegally from a Pizza shop employee who bought them on the street. He of course was not at a gunshow nor did he run a background check.

So If the loophole had been closed, it would have made NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

But then Moore never deals in actual facts, not as entertaining.

 

[longeyes]

"Word is that Clark was a lifelong Republican who after being canned by William
Cohen during Clintons tenure offered himself to the Republican party as a hopeful
in '08 only to be denied by Karl Rove. Only after this rejection from Rove has he
begun his cacophony of shrill criticism against the Bush Administration."

Well, sure, '08 is reserved for Jeb. And '16 is being held for George P. Bush.

 

[gundam007]

I bet clarks army initiative will be to release 90% of the army and train the 10% left to fly the strategic bombers he orders with the defense budget. Kosovo saw us bombing buildings with enemies right next to embassies from 30,000 feet. we blew up the chinese embassy. He also parked some tanks on an airfield to stop russian planes from coming in to SUPPORT us

 

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Here why CLARK SUCKS!!!!

Clark wary of concealed guns
11:21 PM 1/19/04
Scott Milfred State government reporter


Though he owns a lot of guns, loves to hunt and spent 38 years in the military, Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark is generally opposed to letting citizens carry concealed handguns. <

"I don't feel right about concealed weapons," Clark told the Wisconsin State Journal during a brief telephone call from New Hampshire on Friday, where he was campaigning for that state's Jan. 27 primary. <

"It's OK if you're a detective on the police force," Clark continued. "But I don't see a requirement for ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons." <

The Republican-run Wisconsin Senate on Wednesday will try to override Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle's veto of SB214, a measure that would allow state residents 21 and older with clean records to carry hidden guns in most places. <

Clark, a retired four-star general from Arkansas, said he didn't know details of the Wisconsin bill or Wisconsin's 130-year history of banning concealed weapons. Most states, to varying degrees, allow residents to carry hidden weapons. Wisconsin is one of a handful that does not. <

But, "I don't see a need for concealed weapons for people in America," Clark said. "We don't live in that kind of country, and we shouldn't want to." <

Clark would respect, however, the right of individual states to control the issue. Most of Clark's seven rivals for the Democratic nomination for president - though not Ohio U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich - seem to agree on that point. <

Kucinich is against concealed weapons and doesn't think the states should control the issue, said Ann Seidl, a campaign spokeswoman in Wisconsin. <

"Concealed-carry weapons add to instability in communities," Seidl said, noting that many law enforcement officials agree. <

The issue could affect the general election because President Bush signed legislation allowing concealed guns in Texas when he was governor. <

U.S. Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina thinks states should continue to control the issue and "do what's best for them," said John Kraus, a Wisconsin spokesman for Edwards' presidential campaign. <

Edwards supports existing federal law requiring background checks on most gun purchasers, Kraus added. Edwards wants to require checks at gun shows, as well, and ban semi-automatic weapons, Kraus said. <

U.S. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, a hunter and Vietnam veteran, "would not support any kind of federal concealed-carry legislation and would oppose federal law that would impose a right-to-carry standard on any individual state," said David DiMartino, a spokesman in Washington, D.C. <

Kerry has criticized rival presidential candidate and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean for Dean's ties to gun groups. The National Rifle Association has endorsed Dean in the past. Vermont has no prohibition on carrying concealed weapons, although Dean signed a bill banning firearms on school grounds. <

The campaigns of Dean, Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt, Connecticut U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman and the Rev. Al Sharpton did not quickly respond Monday to requests for comment. <

If the Wisconsin Senate musters the required two-thirds vote to override Doyle's veto, the measure would then go to the Assembly for a similar vote. <



Think I made it up. here's the link: http://www.madison.com/wisconsinstatejournal/local/65597.php

 

[BenW]

Edwards wants to require checks at gun shows, as well, and ban semi-automatic weapons

If that's accurate, Edwards is scarier than Clark (and Clark is scary!), especially given his recent popularity among Democrats.