Sunray said -
There used to be handgun ammo that was sold as AP. Black Talon's were supposed to be too.
The term "Copkiller" was something someone cooked up in the movies. I'm not aware of any "store bought" ie: factory made handgun ammunition that can / will penetrate a police issue BP vest.
There was two reasons Winchester's "Black Talon" was discontinued for public sale:
First- was all the complaints from the medical community due to the fact that the Black Talon would (after fully expanding) cut their fingertips during exploratory surgury. Even finding bullet jacket fragments could mean "death" from AIDS exposure.
Second- was the fact that the Black Talon would "catch & spin". The jacket, after expansion would cut & tear tissue during penetration & the points on the ends of the jacket would catch on a bone & spin off in a different direction, cutting tissue as it went.
Dr.'s said the damage caused by the Talon was too extreme to repair & lobbied to stop the sale to John Q. Public. LEO still carry & train w/ the Talon, hence "For LE only" on every box.
BTW- A modified version of the Black Talon "Winchester Ranger" is available for sale to the public, is the same bullet as the talon, but doesn't penatrate as deep, & is copper in color.
My personal opinion is that Winchester designed the "perfect" bullet. I'm not going to shoot a BG, & afterwards bend over ask "Are you OK?"
Hey Cheese..... Take your stash of M855's & don't worry about Minn.'s ammo laws. If you are not in LE, & already own ammo marked "For LEO only", you are obviously not worried about it where you live now.... why worry about Minnesota's laws?
