mosin nagant barrel movement help?

[butcherboy]

i just shot my mosin and i noticed that the barrel moves in the front barrel band ( the one that has the cutout for the cleaning rod) i removed the bands and the barrel moves about 1/2 - 3.4 inches in the stock.

the gun is shooting 6inches high at 100yds. will shimming the barrel reduce the shooting high issue?

thanks.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

When you say the barrel moves, in what way? Sounds more like your action screws might be loose if things flop around like that. The hand guard isn't supposed hold anything in, it just covers the barrel.

 

[butcherboy]

BluEyes: this is my first mosin, by "action screws" do you mean the
"receiver tang screw and magazine tang screw". i looked on 7.62x54r.net and those look like the screws. if these are the screws they are secure. i also checked all the other screws i could find on the rifle and they are secure also.

what i mean by barrel moves: within the nosecap the barrel that is exposed moves up and down. after i removed the handguard you could easily lift and push the barrel by hand. this only happened halfway up the stock. from the halfway point to the receiver the barrel does not move. there is no sideways movement of the barrel.

i hope this explains it better. thanks for the help.

 

[caribou]

You do not shim a barrel on a Mosin, you shim the action tight to the stock.
The Finns used square brass shims with the hole in the middle for the action screws(reciver /mag tang screws) and tighten them.

The Mosin Stock is long and thin on an M-91/30, something the finns didnt like either. If its slapping the barrel during recoil, it could be a problem. Do you have the cleaning rod in place?

Is it a consistant 6 inches, a nice round group or is it a strig , up and down on the target.......could be stock slap or inconsistant ammo.


Raising your front sight will lower your point of impact. Some trade off front sights, some put a small tube thats a bit longer, some put in their own pins, made a bit longer. Also your sights are most likely set for 150 grain "light ball" ammo, if your shooting milsurp through your milsurp.

Most 91/30's hit high at 100 meter or yards, they are generally battle sighted for point of impact around 150 to 200meters, depending on where it was built, and hitting high wasnt consitterd a problem. The soviets aimed for the belt buckle.

 

[butcherboy]

caribou: its a M28/30.

shooting:it is a consistant 6 inches, and a nice group, no stinging.

im using polish 147grain from Aimsurplus.

 

[Shadow 7D]

The big question is..
the metal parts of the gun (barrel and receiver moving, or is the barrel, is the barrel screwed tight to the receiver?

 

[butcherboy]

shadow 7d: there is no movement in the receiver. the barrel is tight to the receiver. also no movement between the stock and receiver.

i think the stock is a little off. halfway up the stock the barrel is moveable. it does not move closer to the receiver.

 

[caribou]

Well, in my imperfect recolections, Im thinking the Finn M-28's were Battle sighted at 200 Meters.......... I belive they superimposed the target on the top of the front sight , known as the "6o'clock hold".
Then again sometimes the front sight isnt tall enough after having been changed at soome point, for some reason. I dont know about M-28's but M-39's have a same # stamped on the front blade and the barrel.
Try some 200 yard shots if you get a chance and see where it groups.
That would bee fun.

My M-39 sights the same way.

If your getting good groups I would venture to say the movement isnt an issue. Your M-28 probly has the brass shims in the screw areas, if they were needed.

The M-28 is an Awsome Rifle.

 

[justgoto]

It shoots good groups, you know the POI; unless you think the movement could get worse causing damage, I don't think there is a problem.

My Eddystone barrel moves as you describe; it shoots wonderfully also. After 30 years of use, not noticing a change; I'm not overly concerned.

I figure as long as I keep the action screws the proper tension as I have been, the condition is not causing a problem.