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Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by bigal66, Aug 14, 2004.

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  1. M2 Carbine

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    Kimber Tactical Ultra 45
    Kimber Ultra Carry with a Crimson Trace laser after dark

    This laser equipped Kel Tec 380 is my always pocket gun.
    100% hits within it's reasonably range, say 7 yards.

    As far as reliable.
    I won't have an unreliable gun.
    I've got many S&W J frame 38's and other revolvers. (a couple with Crimson Trace lasers)
    Makarovs and other 45's and 9 mm pistols.
    Almost any of which I would carry and not feel the least bit disadvantaged, but the Tactical Ultra is the best of the best.

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  2. MICHAEL T

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    Colt Mustang family , any of them will do the job.
     
  3. SAG0282

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    I've only carried two (SIG pro 9mm and SIG P226), but both have been flawless. The SIG Pro is my current carry pistol.
     
  4. 355sigfan

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    Any firearm will malfunction if you shoot it enough under hard enough conditions. Thats life. If your's don't you have not shot enough. Some are more reliable than others. The brands I trust are as follows : Glock, Sig, Beretta, Hk, Smith Revolvers, Custom 1911's (following testing). I prefer 45 acp and 9mm autos to 40sw's, 10mm, or 357 sigs.
    Pat
     
  5. TomN

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    My carry gun is a CZ P-01. It has always been nothing but reliable. I used to carry an HK p7m8 that was reliable with everything also. I just couldn't warm up to the p7m8 despite the fact that it is an amazing pistol.
     
  6. gvass

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    Most reliable CCW:
    SW 640
     
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    hi guys! i carry a colt gunsite pistol ! and its been very rock steady 1911.. it shoots to point of aim and is very accurate ,,, i know some like there wheel guns but i will take my colt 1911 any where any time,, its that good!!!
     
  8. Kaz_67

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    Ditto! Although my revolvers may prove more reliable in the long run and time will tell, my G27 and my Glocks in general have proven to be as reliable to this point with a lot more ammo through them. I'm sure there are other makes that offer that type of performance as well. My pockets really are not large enough for a Glock. J frame and P32 fill that role nicely.
     
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    To back up your Glock, a small S&W J-frame is nice.
     
  10. GaryM

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    I carry a FEG PA63, I know it is rather inexpensive but I have found it reliable, lightweight and very easy to carry.
    I use a belt slide on my weak side usually but sometimes I use a Galco belt holster.
     
  11. Kaz_67

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    Got one of those too! SW 442
     
  12. gvass

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    "I carry a FEG PA63, I know it is rather inexpensive but I have found it reliable, "

    Reliable PA-63. Hmm, you are lucky, or not shoot enough...
     
  13. Jiml3

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    For carry, Kahr PM9.
    Concealed carry, CZ PCR 9mm. or S&W 6906.

    All totally reliable.
     
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    I have two that I trust to carry due to reliability history of them

    SigPro in .40
    S&W 5906

    Love em both.
     
  16. JPM70535

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    If you want absolute reliability in a concealed carry weapon, the first thing to do is eliminate semi-autos from your list. As much as I enjoy carrrrying and shooting my Para companion 7-45 and my Springfield Loaded 45, and as accurate as they are, sooner or later they will malfunction. Murphy's law being ever present in our lives, the malfunction will occur at the worst possible time.

    IMO, the double action revolver, notably the J frame Smiths are the way to go. When you pull the trigger on it, it will go bang. Plus features include, easy concealability, modest weight, better than combat accuracy, and the ability to carry a proven fight stopper in the 357 version. The only minus worth mentioning would be the limited capacity (5 rounds). A speed loader in the pocket remedies this.

    In all the years I have shot J frames, I have never had a misfire using factory ammo, and as long as ammo is eyeballed for high primers during loading, the odds are I never will

    One final plus for revolvers, if the impossible should happen, and it doesn't go bang, just pull the trigger again, New cartridge, new Primer, 2nd chance in the blink of an eye with no Tap, Rack, Bang.

    The above statements are merely my opinion, and are no more valid than yours.

    JPM
     
  17. 355sigfan

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    JPM70535 I disagree with you on this. Yes if your comparing compact 1911's Para's in particular I can understand why you don't trust autos. Compact 1911 and para's in particular don't have a great reputation for reliability. One of our officers wanted to qualify with his Para P12 LDA and the thing could not make it through 10 rounds without a malfunction. Thats the nature of these little beasts. Now my Glock 26 has made it though 700 rounds so far without a malfunction. Its brand new to me. My Kimber has done very well for me as well as countless other autos. I have had revolvers fail me. Anything man made if you shoot it enough will fail.

    Revolvers tend to be a hair more reliable over all. But if your comparing top quality autos to top quality revolvers the playing field is pretty much equal.

    I also have a problem with your recomendation of a 357 J frame smith as a general CCW weapon. These guns have fierce recoil, terrible sights and are hard for most people of an average skill level to make fast accurate hits with. They are handy but they are not practical. Snubs and pocket guns have their place but I would recomend something a bit easier to shoot if you can conceal it. For instance a Glock 26 or Sig 239 are very good conceable reliable autos. On the revolver side I would recomend a Ruger Sp101 with a 3 inch Barrel in 357 mag loaded with medium velocity 357 mag Golden Sabers. Or you could go with a larger 6 shot Smith like the 19 with a 3 inch barrel and a round butt. All these are belt guns but they will deliver far better protection than a little 2 inch 357 mag J frame.

    Your defination of a clearance for a type one with a revolver is accurate. Just pull the trigger again. Its fast and easy with no mess. But what if your little titanium J frame smith bullets jump crimp. Then you have an expensive paper weight. I am not saying revolvers are useless. I in fact prefer them for the pocket gun role. But I prefer the standard Airweight 38 specials like the 442. But in the belt gun role I feel the the semi auto is more efficient and just as dependable. To each their own.
    Pat
     
  18. Cruiseron

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    Makarov

    Tested world wide. 50 plus years as a combat handgun.
     
  19. Minute_Of_Torso

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    Currently I'm carrying a 4" S&W M629 stoked with Federal Classic 240 gr .44 S&W Specials. If I carry a BUG (which isn't very often), it's a Ruger SP101.
     
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    Sp101 3â€, Never have had a FTF with it.
    Or,S&W 642. Always fires.

    I’ve found that revolvers tend to be more reliable.
    :cool:
     
  21. JPM70535

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    355SIGFAN,

    Like I stated in my post, my opinion is no more relevant than yours, and perhaps I should have been a little more specific as to the J frame's suitability for CCW. I do not carry an Alloy frame as I agree with you that the Scandium/Titanium Js are long on recoil and not pleasant to shoot. I disagree with your assessment as to the accuracy of the Js. I have found that they will hold all 5 shots in the 10 ring at 7 yards rapid fire and if you factor in a reload, then they hold all 10 shots in (for me) 19-20 seconds, not a speed record, but good enough for a CCW that always goes Bang.

    I respect your love of Glocks and Sigs,and while they are good quality firearms, I submit that they are harder to conceal than my 649 and in the case of the model 26, lacks the stopping power of the 357 mag. Also, I would be reluctant to carry the Glock Mexican style as I sometimes do the 649. Not having a manual safety on a pistol with a 5 pound trigger being carried next to my body is not my cup of tea.

    The Sig is a great pistol, but as I stated, it is still an Auto and can and will malfuction if you carry it long enough. It also doesnt compare to the J frame in size or stopping power, 9mm vs. 357?

    I carry my Para most times when I am wearing clothing that will conceal it because I would rather be armed with 8 rounds of 45 ACP than 5 rounds of 357, and it is easier to control than the J frame, but the question was reliability, and I stand by my choice of the little "J"

    thanks

    JPM
     
  22. 355sigfan

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    it is still an Auto and can and will malfuction if you carry it long enough. It also doesnt compare to the J frame in size or stopping power, 9mm vs. 357?
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    Not trying to be a pain. But all I am saying is that the revolver can and and will malfunction as well. I have had it happen. As far as stopping power goes the 9mm with +p+ ammo acutally equals and in some cases outperforms 357 mag ammo fired from a 2 inch snub when the 9mm compared is a Glock 26.
    Pat
     
  23. gvass

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    "But all I am saying is that the revolver can and and will malfunction as well. "

    This is true. But the probability of the revolver malfunction is much lower than in the case of ANY semiauto.
    Technically there are less factor on which the revolvers reliability depend.
     
  24. cratz2

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    With even the best production guns, there are going to be problems from sample to sample. I've owned many semi autos that have never failed. Two G23s, SIG 226, SIG 229, SIG 2340, at least three Colt 1911s, numerous Springfield 1911s, a Kahr P9 Covert, Taurus PT99, Beretta M9, several CZs, two EAAs, a Russian Makarov...

    How can I say one is more reliable than the other when none of these has EVER failed?
     
  25. 355sigfan

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    This is true. But the probability of the revolver malfunction is much lower than in the case of ANY semiauto.
    Technically there are less factor on which the revolvers reliability depend.
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    I would have to disagre. Based on my experience quality autos are just as reliable as quality revolvers when fed with quality ammo. Also revolvers depend on far more moving small parts to run. Autos are more ammunition dependant. But thats not realy a factory unless you can't get the ammo you want. Most modern autos are not that finicky. I have had lemon revolvers at the same rate if not more than lemon autos.

    Pick what you like the best because its your life not mine of the line for your choice. As for myself I will stick to autos for life and death situations. With the exception of the small 442 I sometimes carry on undercover assignments.
    Pat
     
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