Mountain Lion Attacks

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Did you prove them wrong or couldn’t find it?
i was on a job site, we were drilling a water well. it was the second day drilling so were were going to be finished early that saturday. i just happen to have ny deer rifle in my truck for the after noon hunt. as we were racking out, over the sound of the rig i heard a dog barking. i jumped off and say the cat attacking the dog on the neighboring property, my truck was there so i grabbed my marlin and put 2 rounds in the lion.

the cops came and animal control about a hour later DEC came they took the cat and told the owners of the dog it was a bobcat. the dog lived it had to have a lot of stitches, but i think if it was anything other then a year or two old german shepherd i may not have lived. dec will say we have no mountain lions even to the point of lying, a friend from schools dad had photos of one on his trail came he sent then in and never heard back.
 
Those Colorado screwballs, make you use rubber bullets, to shoot bears with, that are raiding your property

I don't when that was. Must have been during the 90s.

Try shooting a poor harmless creature of nature with a rubber bullet these days and a half hour later you'll be in the Klink getting re-educated along with a new gender assignment (probably not one you've heard of). Within 24 hours your "abandoned" property will have been confiscated and given to an illegal alien family .
 
i was on a job site, we were drilling a water well. it was the second day drilling so were were going to be finished early that saturday. i just happen to have ny deer rifle in my truck for the after noon hunt. as we were racking out, over the sound of the rig i heard a dog barking. i jumped off and say the cat attacking the dog on the neighboring property, my truck was there so i grabbed my marlin and put 2 rounds in the lion.

the cops came and animal control about a hour later DEC came they took the cat and told the owners of the dog it was a bobcat. the dog lived it had to have a lot of stitches, but i think if it was anything other then a year or two old german shepherd i may not have lived. dec will say we have no mountain lions even to the point of lying, a friend from schools dad had photos of one on his trail came he sent then in and never heard back.
Where are you in NY? I'm in the Seneca lake area and there have been plenty of sightings. I know I've seen one in person down the road from my old place.
 
Where are you in NY? I'm in the Seneca lake area and there have been plenty of sightings. I know I've seen one in person down the road from my old place.
this was in sullivan county only 1.5 hours from the city, i saw one more about 3 years ago when i was driving. when i was a kid me and my dad found a deer 15 feet up tree. ironically i have never seen a bobcat.
 
i was on a job site, we were drilling a water well. it was the second day drilling so were were going to be finished early that saturday. i just happen to have ny deer rifle in my truck for the after noon hunt. as we were racking out, over the sound of the rig i heard a dog barking. i jumped off and say the cat attacking the dog on the neighboring property, my truck was there so i grabbed my marlin and put 2 rounds in the lion.

the cops came and animal control about a hour later DEC came they took the cat and told the owners of the dog it was a bobcat. the dog lived it had to have a lot of stitches, but i think if it was anything other then a year or two old german shepherd i may not have lived. dec will say we have no mountain lions even to the point of lying, a friend from schools dad had photos of one on his trail came he sent then in and never heard back.
Bobcats and black bear started turning up in Ohio a few years ago and all we heard was they come from PA, WV, etc. Now guys are getting litters upon litters of them on trail cameras so tell me how this is migrating from other states in search of food? For years they claimed it wasn't true or migrants. Now they finally say yep we got an issue.
 
Bobcats and black bear started turning up in Ohio a few years ago and all we heard was they come from PA, WV, etc. Now guys are getting litters upon litters of them on trail cameras so tell me how this is migrating from other states in search of food? For years they claimed it wasn't true or migrants. Now they finally say yep we got an issue.

I don't know about the rules/practices of the game departments in other states but here in Florida the game & fish dept. derives the majority of its operating funds from hunting/fishing license revenue. A biologist on a WMA 11 miles from my house had a pair of Florida panthers (cougars) on his trail cameras in the WMA. He showed them to his superiors and they told him to shut up about it. The only reason the word got out is the biologist quit to work for another agency.

The Fla. panther subspecies is classified an endangered or threatened species and if an area contains an endangered species, hunting is suspended to protect it. If too many areas have hunting suspended, license sales drop and they have less revenue. I believe they also have to do studies on the local ecology concerning an endangered species which raises their expenses. It all comes down to the Benjamins in the end.
 
I don't know about the rules/practices of the game departments in other states but here in Florida the game & fish dept. derives the majority of its operating funds from hunting/fishing license revenue. A biologist on a WMA 11 miles from my house had a pair of Florida panthers (cougars) on his trail cameras in the WMA. He showed them to his superiors and they told him to shut up about it. The only reason the word got out is the biologist quit to work for another agency.

The Fla. panther subspecies is classified an endangered or threatened species and if an area contains an endangered species, hunting is suspended to protect it. If too many areas have hunting suspended, license sales drop and they have less revenue. I believe they also have to do studies on the local ecology concerning an endangered species which raises their expenses. It all comes down to the Benjamins in the end.
Trapping and predator hunting is very slim around here. Years ago coon hunting was a big thing and not so much anymore. Last year at my hunt club meeting the warden said something about trapping bobcats in certain counties and probably 50 people started asking how to get a trapping license, when and where they could shoot them and how. I was sitting there like half you guys haven't hunted in years so now all of a sudden there is something you can stuff you want to get back into it. You would have thought there was a $5k bounty on these things the way these guys got excited. ODNR said if it happened you were to give custody of the cat to them for testing. Half the room got super mad and months later ODNR shot it down saying there wasn't enough cats to trap.
 
since 1990.

I wouldn't call 16 people injured and 3 killed "rare." I guess maybe it's rare if it doesn't happen to you.

I’d say 16 in 29 years qualifies as rare, less than 2 a year (out of 5.6 million+ 2007). We have had a lot more lottery winners in the same time frame and that, I hear that is more difficult than being struck by lightning and that is rare as well.
 
I don't know, 19 in 28 years isn't that many. Especially considering the number of people going into mountain lion territory for recreation in Colorado, and doing so on a regular basis. And also considering that many are jogging/running/cycling along (sometimes with ear buds in), oblivious to the wildlife around them.

This is where I am at also. Colorado is home to so many folks that moved out there just to be one with nature. Gettin' ate by a Cougar is the ultimate "back to nature" trip. Wanna hike/run/jog in Cougar country, don't be surprised if they wanna eat you. Don't take a Brain Surgeon to figure that out. The odds are tho, that you'll die from bee stings before you die from a cougar attack.
 
Talking about what are the odds, this is a video my BIL sent me last year.



I gave them a game camera when they moved up there and they had photos of a cougar checking out the grill. Pretty good sized kitty as it’s back was about handle height.

Videos of my nephew going back and forth between the windows inside the house as a bear cub did the same thing outside.

The folks that live there don’t sit on the side of the picnic table that faces the house for a reason. You’ll be eating lunch and a kid will stop adult conversation with “time to go inside”, aka there is a bear coming.
 
I don't know about the rules/practices of the game departments in other states but here in Florida the game & fish dept. derives the majority of its operating funds from hunting/fishing license revenue. A biologist on a WMA 11 miles from my house had a pair of Florida panthers (cougars) on his trail cameras in the WMA. He showed them to his superiors and they told him to shut up about it. The only reason the word got out is the biologist quit to work for another agency.

The Fla. panther subspecies is classified an endangered or threatened species and if an area contains an endangered species, hunting is suspended to protect it. If too many areas have hunting suspended, license sales drop and they have less revenue. I believe they also have to do studies on the local ecology concerning an endangered species which raises their expenses. It all comes down to the Benjamins in the end.

I believe the "officially acknowledged range" of the Fl panther is all south of lake Okeechobee. Because the cats are limited by jurisdiction, I suppose.
 
I believe the "officially acknowledged range" of the Fl panther is all south of lake Okeechobee. Because the cats are limited by jurisdiction, I suppose.

Until recently, all of the known breeding females have been south of the Caloosahatchee River but solitary males have been found as far north as Volusia County and maybe even as far north as Georgia. However, there are now documented breeding females north of the river. A young male was killed on I-4/75 in the city limits of Tampa about 5-8 years ago and even the FWC admits that there are panthers in the Green Swamp (north of Hwy. 98).
 
Until recently, all of the known breeding females have been south of the Caloosahatchee River but solitary males have been found as far north as Volusia County and maybe even as far north as Georgia. However, there are now documented breeding females north of the river. A young male was killed on I-4/75 in the city limits of Tampa about 5-8 years ago and even the FWC admits that there are panthers in the Green Swamp (north of Hwy. 98).

That's the only critter indigenous to Fl I have never seen. One day maybe.
 
There are only 2 critters here that make me wary, cottonmouths and these things:

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FL-NC, try your luck with some bait: Leftover meat and fish scraps, plus a handful of catnip. Another bait I've used is a rag soppy with bacon grease, wired to a tree or fence post. I didn't sit and wait; just checking for tracks. Yup, it worked.
 
Back in the early 90's two of my Brother's, a friend and I went on a late season Mule Deer archery hunt in the Lincoln National Forest (New Mexico). My brother knew the head Game Warden for that area and he had flown over the area a week prior and suggested a good spot for us to hunt.

He visited us in camp on our 3 day there and somehow the conversation turned to Mountain Lions. He said in the past year...the Game Department in conjunction with a federal trapper had to take 22 (yes 22) lions out of the area because ranchers (over a large area) were losing too much livestock to them.

He said that wouldn't even put a dent in the population and he had no idea how many lions a year were killed by ranchers using the (SSS) method. Hard to believe there are/were that many...but the habitat sure looked good for them.
 
I have trouble believing the Colorado story about the runner who choked a young mountain lion to death. I saw the runner's face and it was torn up but nothing said about his arms, legs or stomach which all of those body parts would be scratched and scarred like hell from that cat's front and hind legs not to mention nasty and vicious bites all over his arms as well. Something's wrong about that story IMHO.
 
I have trouble believing the Colorado story about the runner who choked a young mountain lion to death. I saw the runner's face and it was torn up but nothing said about his arms, legs or stomach which all of those body parts would be scratched and scarred like hell from that cat's front and hind legs not to mention nasty and vicious bites all over his arms as well. Something's wrong about that story IMHO.

So what is your conspiracy theory on this one Milt?

Here is a far more detailed piece from the survivor himself.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2390274/meet-colorado-runner-who-strangled-mountain-lion
 
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I wouldn't call 16 people injured and 3 killed "rare." I guess maybe it's rare if it doesn't happen to you.
Someone somewhere deems them rare based on statistics. Shark attacks are considered "rare" and there's been much more of those than mountain lion attacks since those 1990 cat stats. I had a shark encounter in the Gulf of Mexico when I was a boy. Since I can't pack heat underwater (effectively) Ive considered the ocean as just something for lookin at ever since. When venturing in to an apex predators hunting grounds, i'm armed or I dont go. Rare or not.
 
Someone somewhere deems them rare based on statistics. Shark attacks are considered "rare" and there's been much more of those than mountain lion attacks since those 1990 cat stats. I had a shark encounter in the Gulf of Mexico when I was a boy. Since I can't pack heat underwater (effectively) Ive considered the ocean as just something for lookin at ever since. When venturing in to an apex predators hunting grounds, i'm armed or I dont go. Rare or not.
We had 2 shark attacks this past summer 2018 in Massachusetts. One was fatal. one was in the hospital for weeks. They say shark attacks are rare, but you wont see me bobbing up and down swimming in the ocean this year!
 
The shark bite capital of the US is Florida.
"Statistics from The International Shark Attack File, a database of shark attacks from around the world, show that Florida's coast has witnessed a total of 812 confirmed and unprovoked shark attacks since 1837, at least those that have been recorded." https://abcnews.go.com/US/shark-attacks-dangerous-places-america-guide/story?id=56671215

Last year (2018) there were 66 shark attacks worldwide, 13 of them in Florida.
The 'sharkiest' place I've ever been is New Smyrna beach, Florida. I can remember only one time out of ~ a dozen trips when I did not see a shark along the beach there.

I only had 2 instances of sharks paying close attention to me and that was when I was spearfishing. Once was at Looe Key near Big Pine Key when a black-tip reef shark chased me back to the boat and the other was off Crystal River, Florida when a bull shark did the same. Both instances scared me just short of the point of panic. Poor visibility in the case of the bull shark had me constantly circling all the way to the surface hyperventilating the whole time.
 
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