MR73, strengths and drawbacks

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... I have found people will tell you their gun is accurate even if it's complete rubbish.
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That depends on the definition of accurate. I expect an open sighted handgun to stay within an inch with five shots at 25 meters when shot from a good rest. Since the ten ring for the 25m ISSC target is 50 mm, almost two inches, any handgun capable of two inch accuracy at that distance can be considered plenty accurate and I have found few service sized handguns that cannot get a three inch group from a rest with the right ammo.

While the black bullseye of said ISSC target is almost eight inches in diameter, those that shoot off-hand at 25 meters will know that any deviation from the shooting basics will result in a miss of this rather large target area and when I am at the gun ranges here, I see few people even putting their B-27 targets out to 10 yards :).

Nevertheless, I read many range reports of folks on the gun forums that can shoot two inch groups off-hand @ 25 all day long with a three inch .22 WMR revolver and I tremble at the thought and have nightmares about it, that they could come to one of the matches with a real target pistol and humiliate me.
 
Congrats! :) That is a beautiful and finely made revolver. A work of art that you can shoot. I am green with envy! ;)
 
I'll be comparing its accuracy to a FA Mod 97 357 mag and a TK Customs tuned 686 7" over the weekend. I'm pretty sure it's going to leave the 686 in the dust - if it matches the FA I'm going to be over the moon.

I'm going to leave the trigger adjustments for now until I get accustomed to the Manurhin, but my initial impressions are very positive. The fit and finish is out of this world, and having had a look at the a schematic, it is clear to see that no Smith, Colt or Ruger will ever come close in the trigger dept. This is old school craftsmanship and design that I didn't know existed anymore.
 
Will you shoot the FA 97 with open sights in the comparison? Optics would give it an unfair advantage unless you use a Ransom Rest with proper grip inserts.
 
My 357 Freedom is a 4 1/4" fixed sight model. The previous pic was one of my 454's with hunting loads. The rear sights are so small that I line up the silhouette of the back of the gun with the front sight. (I'm a little far sighted). Even so, it out shoots every Dan, Smith, Ruger and Colt I own by a large margin. Hence I have been having a fire sale getting rid of my "junk", which will include a couple of Pythons.


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Wow your FA must be outstanding if all the others are "Junk" by comparison. Even Pythons?
My 357 Freedom is a 4 1/4" fixed sight model. The previous pic was one of my 454's with hunting loads. The rear sights are so small that I line up the silhouette of the back of the gun with the front sight. (I'm a little far sighted). Even so, it out shoots every Dan, Smith, Ruger and Colt I own by a large margin. Hence I have been having a fire sale getting rid of my "junk", which will include a couple of Pythons.


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Wow your FA must be outstanding if all the others are "Junk" by comparison. Even Pythons?

Not just mine, all Freedoms shoot like that. I never really compared them directly to other guns until I got a FA in .357 mag. In the image you can see the barrel of a Dan Wesson 15. I took it to the range with the Freedom Arms. After shooting I left it there on consignment. I didn't even bother cleaning it before selling - all I knew I didn't want to shoot it ever again.

Ps. I put the word junk in quotes. Of course they're not. My expectations has been raised after shooting the Freedom and the guns that used to meet them, don't anymore.
 
I thought the downside to the Manuhrin was that they were $4000. To me that is a big downside.
 
I thought the downside to the Manuhrin was that they were $4000. To me that is a big downside.

They retail at around $3,2K in the US; still a hefty sum but not 4K hefty. For that, you get a firearm infinitely superior to any Smith, Ruger or Colt.

Consider the two trigger returns pictured below. The Smith's is a cheaply cast one-piece that slides (metal to metal) on the frame. The trigger return spring is an equally cheap coil spring, and changing trigger return weight requires you to open up and replace the coil spring. The Manurhin trigger return slide runs on 4 rollers, and utilities a leaf spring. The leaf spring engages the return slide via another roller and the spring weight is adjustable by way of a screw on the grip. The difference between old-school craftsmanship and design vs. modern cost vs. income manufacturing.

From top to bottom they built it the best they could. There is no cost cutting anywhere to be found.

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Picked it up today.
Congratulations, Apuesto. Now, all you have to do is put into it around 1,500 to 2,000 rounds into it and it's run in. No need to adjust sights, just slightly reduce the hammer force and return spring to fit Federal primers and you'll do great. Mine certainly grew on me during that time. I found around 1,400 g trigger weight to be suitable for my finger.
 
Range report: I had a less than ideal environment at a local indoor range due to a couple of ankle-biters shooting full auto AR's and showering me with hot brass. Even so, shooting off hand the Manurhin is definitely the most accurate DA revolver I have shot (in DA mode). In DA mode, the trigger is fantastic. I could feel when the cylinder locked up and the hammer was staged. The reset was nice - I like the trigger to push my finger forward so I can feel what the revolver is doing, and it gave very good feedback. I'll definitely be looking to buy a MR32 or MR38 soon.

The single action trigger was a little disappointing and I couldn't match the Freedom Arms' groups. It didn't creep, but it felt a little dull and was heavier than what I would like. If I can get an adapter for my Ron Power stoning tool I can probably improve the trigger a little, but I think the Manurhin's forte is double action shooting and I should leave it at that. It's not a revolver I would use for silhouette, but it would do very well at PPC.

I'll shoot it off bags at the club and see what it can do at distance.
 
The single action trigger was a little disappointing...
Being an amateur and a lousy shot, I use snap caps when practising my pull and aim, as I frequently do stupid things like meeting the recoil. This hones the still rough parts, smoothing both single action and double action trigger. There's no need to do anything but use it and it'll just get better and better.
 
In my opinion, the MR73 is the finest service revolver ever manufactured. It has been stated that the MR73 is the P210 of revolvers, and I am in agreement with that.

Strongly concur.

Here's my 6" shooter (seller pic). I have another 6" Sport model and a 3" Police/Defense model, both NIB/unfired. All are Mulhouse-era MR73s from the mid-to-late 1970s. I'd really like to add the right Mulhouse-produced 5 1/4" example at some point.

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Has anybody played around with grips? Do S&W K/L sized grips fit the Manurhin MR 73?
 
Not just mine, all Freedoms shoot like that. I never really compared them directly to other guns until I got a FA in .357 mag. In the image you can see the barrel of a Dan Wesson 15. I took it to the range with the Freedom Arms. After shooting I left it there on consignment. I didn't even bother cleaning it before selling - all I knew I didn't want to shoot it ever again.

Ps. I put the word junk in quotes. Of course they're not. My expectations has been raised after shooting the Freedom and the guns that used to meet them, don't anymore.

Can confirm. My M83 in .454 is ridiculously accurate, even the .45 ACP cylinder will stack bullets on top of one another from a rest. Which is amazing when one considers how far the bullet must go before it contacts the barrel forcing cone.
 
PS. Ironically on the US page, all the manufacturers grips are on the same page!
Until you add something up top in "Enter search term" and press the question mark symbol.
Looking at Karl Nill's shop, Smith & Wesson grips aren't found on the same page as Manurhin grips. I'll take that as a no.
Which I did, that's why 3 links instead of 1. I should perhaps have begun at the US shop page and not the International one. Sorry 'bout that. Here are US links based on search terms "686", "Manurhin" and "MR73".
 
I'm hoping the purchase of Chapuis by Beretta may make grips and parts easier to come by one day...
 
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