My 2 cents on bore cleaning (with more Teslong pics)

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I wet patched the rifle this AM before work (7:00AM) (Was here from 11:30 to 1:20 last night, power company had to shut us down to tighten some lugs on the main transformer. We are fed from three directions with automatic switching, but our weak link is the one transformer.)

I got next to no black on the first wet patch and no blue. I did another wet patch or two and a couple of dry ones, then bore mopped the chamber. I will look at it with the bore scope this evening. Go from there. I did peak in there with the naked eye.
 
I took a few quick pics with the Teslong this AM before rushing off to work. A little bit of copper at the beginning of the lands. Mostly clean though. Gonna try some Eliminator or KG-1 carbon remover on it. It had around 100/150 rounds on it since the last cleaning.
 

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I took a few quick pics with the Teslong this AM before rushing off to work. A little bit of copper at the beginning of the lands. Mostly clean though. Gonna try some Eliminator or KG-1 carbon remover on it. It had around 100/150 rounds on it since the last cleaning.
Assume the patches were with TA?

Not much copper left, but looks like quite a lot of carbon built up left. I'd bet scrubbing w/TA and stiff brush will get a lot more carbon than just patching.

Discovered the TA long after I quit shooting competition & its been a long time since I put more than 20-30 rounds downrange between cleaning. I use the IOSSO stiff brush to apply the TA, find that mechanical scrubbing (6-10 strokes) does a lot better job than application with just a patch, but again, talking about a lot fewer rounds between cleaning.

Regards,
hps
 
Yes, sorry.


It certainly got some more that evening before letting it soak over night.

If that were my bore, I'd let it soak overnight and then hit it again with 8-10 strokes with the TA soaked brush, then dry patch and see how much carbon is left. That's quite a lot of carbon and may be baked on pretty good???

Like I say, I never put enough rounds to really cook the carbon on any more, so I'm anxious to see how the TA works on a well fouled bore.:)

Regards,
hps
 
If that were my bore, I'd let it soak overnight and then hit it again with 8-10 strokes with the TA soaked brush, then dry patch and see how much carbon is left. That's quite a lot of carbon and may be baked on pretty good???
That's probably a good idea. I have some Slip 2000 Carbon Killer I can always try as well. The bore felt very smooth with a patch after the cleaning. In the past that was good enough. I should drag out the Bench gun and check that bore, like your rifles it never went very many rounds without a cleaning. I have some KG 1 on the way, people are always bragging on it. It will be interesting seeing what works. It has always taken brushing in the past, although I was using phosphor bronze brushes then and am using nylon with this. May go back to phosphor bronze. I have a lot to do today, may play with it this evening some.
 
Always interesting to hear results others get w/their different products/procedures. Keep us posted.:thumbup:

Regards,
hps
 
This thread makes me wonder every time I read it. I bet I could surprise a lot of folks (friends) with how clean their bore really is. I bought a Teslong thanks to this thread. I kind of wonder why I went and did that too, because now I am on a quest to find better cleaners, and get that shiny clean barrel. How good is good enough though ?? I mean if you don’t compete. Maybe a hunting rifle. I know those here are enthusiasts so we are a different breed. .

Jeff
 
Not to tangent the thread, but I’ve heard mention of both Patch Out and Tactical Advantage. Reading both bottles gives me no indication of what the difference is between the two. Is one better than another for particular purposes or for specific types of fouling?
 
I used some of those VFG pellets for the first time this weekend. They worked really well. :thumbup:

:thumbup:They work very well and are not as messy as JB paste.

Not to tangent the thread, but I’ve heard mention of both Patch Out and Tactical Advantage. Reading both bottles gives me no indication of what the difference is between the two. Is one better than another for particular purposes or for specific types of fouling?

Patch out is basically the same as or at least comparable to wipeout but instead of foam it is applied w/patch or brush. IMHO wipeout is good for copper removal but not so good on carbon; TA, applied with several strokes of wet, very stiff, nylon brush (such as IOSSO brushes).

More info: https://sharpshootr.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2019-SMALL-CAT-1.pdf

Regards,
hps
 
Not to tangent the thread, but I’ve heard mention of both Patch Out and Tactical Advantage. Reading both bottles gives me no indication of what the difference is between the two. Is one better than another for particular purposes or for specific types of fouling?

One has a tactical advantage, so it must be REALLY good
 
Okay. Thanks, hps. I had presumed that TA was specifically purposed for carbon removal. Does it work as effectively on copper as PA? Is there a place for both products in the bore cleaning regimen?
 
Okay. Thanks, hps. I had presumed that TA was specifically purposed for carbon removal. Does it work as effectively on copper as PA? Is there a place for both products in the bore cleaning regimen?

I used to shoot 100 or so rounds/range trip, but no longer do so. My hunting rifle may have anywhere from one to maybe 20 rounds through it when cleaned (after every trip), so YMMV, especially if several hundreds of rounds have been fired since cleaning. Having said that, currently, most of my other cleaners sit idle and TA used almost exclusively. Most other cleaners are better at copper OR powder fouling but not both. TA may require more than one treatment, but does it all for my shooting habits.

More info here:
https://sharpshootr.com/tactical-advantage/

Regards,
hps
 
It may be the wrong place to bring this up,buy I've been curious about something that affects the first shot out of a barrel that hasn't been fired in a while,like a uunting rifle that gets shot and put in the safe without cleaning it.I think the powder deposits oxidize and get more abrasive over time.Also,the copper deposits get a dry look to them,and sometimes the copper will turn blue and have a rough look to it.Maybe this has some effect on point of impact when the gun is first shot.I would also think the added friction because of the changes that fouling goes through over time could raise the pressure and cause the first shot to go half an inch or so high,and the same first shot usually chronographs faster than the rest of the shots.After the first shot,the rough deposits get shoved out of the barrel.Anybody have any experience with this?
That is usually due to a carbon ring close to the throat. Carbon builds up and it is harder when cold. After the first shot it is softer and has less effect.
 
I finally was able to slow down enough to get back to barrel cleaning. My Slip 2000 seems to have gone bad (Different color and texture than it used to be), but it is pretty old, so I tossed it a little while ago. I have KG-1 and Carb-Out ordered. If I had known about the Carb-Out the other day when I ordered the KG-1, they would both be here sooner. The KG-1 may be here soon enough to try before the match. Brownells is out of the VFG 6MM pellets.
 
I bought a Teslong thanks to this thread. I kind of wonder why I went and did that too, because now I am on a quest to find better cleaners, and get that shiny clean barrel.

Here’s what I’ve learned. Being able to inspect my work has allowed me to know what works (for me anyway) and develop a method that gets the job done with the least amount of time and effort. Without a bore scope you really are just guessing
 
My Teslong works fine with my laptop but the Android phone (Samsung Note 10+) just crashes and never works.

Anyone else have this problem?
 
My Teslong works fine with my laptop but the Android phone (Samsung Note 10+) just crashes and never works.

Anyone else have this problem?

I have the wireless version, but others that have experienced similar issues with your version have had success by uninstalling and reinstalling the app
 
I am using mine on my Android, when t craps out I have to quit it and reboot the app.
 
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