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By Radley Balko

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Each semester, Meremac Community College in St. Louis, Mo., charged Crystal Lewis for a service called "MOPIRG." "I hadn't the slightest idea what it was," she says. The fine print on her bill read: "If you opt not to support MOPIRG, please deduct this amount from your payment." So she did. But she still wasn't sure what she was no longer paying for.

She was paying for a myriad of causes and advocacy efforts sponsored, endorsed and overseen by Ralph Nader. And if you're in college or have kids in college, the odds are pretty good that you're supporting Ralph Nader too. You probably didn't know that, did you? And that's just the way Nader and his nationwide network of Public Interest Research Groups (PIRGS) would like to keep it.

The PIRG idea was born in the late 1960s, but really caught on through the 1970s and 1980s. It has again picked up momentum in the last few years, due mainly to the publicity that accompanied Nader's presidential campaign. The scam varies from campus to campus, but it basically works like this:

Each time a college student registers for classes, he or she is automatically billed somewhere between three and eight dollars, all of which goes directly to the local PIRG chapter. There, it's funneled directly to the state chapter, where it's used to lobby state legislatures on issues like tougher emissions standards, campaign finance reform and a bevy of other environmental and anti-corporate causes. Very little if any of the money actually stays at the campus where it's generated.

It's also used as "seed money" for more fund-raising campaigns. And about 10 percent of the money goes to USPIRG, the national chapter, where it's used to lobby on the federal level.

The standard procedure for start-up campus PIRGs works like this:

First, they attempt to institute mandatory, nonrefundable "contributions" from the student body either through a student referendum, a petition drive or by going through school administrators. The University of Wisconsin requires all of its students to donate to the local PIRG chapter, as does the University of Oregon, and about a third of the state colleges in New York's SUNY system.

If that doesn't work, PIRG chapters attempt to institute a "reverse check" system, where each student automatically donates to PIRG each time he registers for classes, unless he specifically knows to look for an already checked box asking for his support -- and "unchecks" it.

If they can't win support there, PIRG groups will attempt a "refundable fee" system, where each student is automatically billed, but can request a refund by taking the bill to the university registrar or bursar's office, filling out some paperwork, then taking the form to the local PIRG's campus office to get the money back.

Such systems rake in millions for PIRGs because they put the burden on college students to educate themselves about each line item on their tuition bill, or to go to great effort for a comparatively small refund, particularly unlikely when mom and dad or Mr. Perkins and Mr. Stafford are paying for college anyway.

Craig Rucker is executive director for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, an organization that's been fighting the PIRG scams for years. Rucker estimates that Nader's causes take in somewhere between $10 and $20 million annually from college students, most all of it unwittingly.

What's remarkable is the blatant, transparent hypocrisy the PIRGS use to defend their tactics. The USPIRG Web site claims that mandatory student fees earmarked for liberal activism are "protected by the First Amendment," and are intended to "foster a marketplace of ideas."

Yet that same USPIRG Web site is a staunch supporter of radical campaign finance reform, and says that contributions to political candidates are not political speech and, therefore, not protected by the First Amendment.

Get it? The act of forcing students at state colleges to fund causes they don’t believe in is "protected speech," but voluntarily giving to a political candidate isn't. Remarkable.

This is also the same Ralph Nader who (correctly, at least on this issue) rails against corporate welfare, because he says it's deplorable to take money from taxpayers and then funnel it to corporations whose interests might be different from those of said taxpayers. It's the same Ralph Nader and USPIRG organization that cries out against the "injustice" of ATM fees, and criticizes credit card companies for preying on the naivete of college kids.

Yet this same Ralph Nader and USPIRG has no problem with mandating, tricking or manipulating college students into donating to leftist activism.

But there is at least a bit of good news. Rucker's organization has had some success in fighting PIRGS at the ballot box, in the state house and in the courts. Organizations like the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education are working to educate college students of their right to withhold funding.

Two recent U.S. Supreme Court cases (Rosenberger v. University of Virginia and Southworth v. University of Wisconsin) have validated at least the concept of mandatory student fees, but also require that the system for distributing those fees be "viewpoint neutral."

So the PIRGs' mandatory fees it would seem are bound for litigation, and will likely be found unconstitutional.

But it's at least possible that the "reverse check" and similarly underhanded funding methods could survive a court challenge. At that point, it will be up to organizations like C-FACT and FIRE, as well as concerned taxpayers, to make state legislators and university boards of regents aware of their displeasure with such schemes.

More importantly, it will, and is, up to individual college students and their parents to scrutinize their tuition bills, as Crystal Lewis did, and be sure the checks they write are funding an education, not causes for Ralph Nader's 2004 campaign platform
 
Heck, nothing new. They took my ducats when I was college kiddie. Protests fell upon deaf ears. Payback comes whenever they send me an invitation to join the alumni association. I generally scrawl on the letter that I died in an automobile accident, sign my brother's name, and send it back. :D It stops them for a few years before they figure out again that I'm really alive.
 
Yeah when I was in school we had to pay the "student center fee" which was in turn used to support campus "student" groups. We never were told where our money went only that it was given out by some sort of budgetary council. I was a treasurer for one of the largest student groups on campus (IVCF), I know my group never saw much of it.
 
I know my group never saw much of it.

Whatever isn't embezzeled or passed of as "administrative" costs, goes to the ACLU,WWP, and NAMBLA. Anything left over gets doled out, left to right, so to speak. :D
 
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Whatever isn't embezzeled or passed of as "administrative" costs, goes to the ACLU,WWP, and NAMBLA. Anything left over gets doled out, left to right, so to speak.

Eeew!
 
Ralph Nader owes me a dimebag. Pay up Ralph you :cuss: !!!








Disclaimer: Obviously a joke for humor impaired
 
Shouldn't the correct title be, "PIRGS Scam College Kids"?

Anyway, I dissected this article on my board. I'm tired now, but basically:

* If you are a current college student, and you have a problem with a few of your dollars going toward PIRG, that's cool. Just request a refund, and you'll get your money back.

* Most colleges that I have heard, require their students to pay an activity fee each year/semester. This money funds all recognized student groups that request money. This money, is also NOT refundable. So, like it or not, (and depending on your campus of course), you are paying for a prolife/prochoice group; college dems/college republicans; feminist group/eagle forum; etc etc etc etc etc. The reason that the PIRG money is "set aside" or "separate", is so that students may be refunded if they disapprove of the PIRG's agenda.

* I don't know why this article links the PIRG money with class registration. In my (admittedly limited) experience, class registration money went through the registrar/bursar. This is a completely different office, staff, bureacracy, etc from the Student Activities Office. Why this article feels the need to connect these two distinct offices, I do not know.

* This goes for all purchases, in and out of college, large and small: KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR. If it's a surprise, don't blame someone else because you didn't take the time to watch how and where your money is spent.

* Colleges are frequently lambasted as being liberal bastions. But, according to this article, NO college student would EVER want their money to go to something as horrendous as the PIRGS. Um? You can't have it both ways. :) Either colleges are liberal bastions, or not. :)
 
Wyldone,

If this is such an innocent fundraising effort, why don't colleges ASK for the donation to PIRGs instead of trying to sneak them into routine fee payments? The nswer is that they know most kids (or their parents) won't notice the small $3-$8 fee or will assume that it is for legitimate purposes.

Colleges are frequently lambasted as being liberal bastions. But, according to this article, NO college student would EVER want their money to go to something as horrendous as the PIRGS. Um? You can't have it both ways. Either colleges are liberal bastions, or not.
First, no one said that that most students are liberal, just that the faculty are, and they do everything in their power to brainwash the kids during their internment, including using underhanded tactics like this. Second, I don't think that even liberal students appreciate being taken advantage of this way.
 
Wyldone,

If this is such an innocent fundraising effort, why don't colleges ASK for the donation to PIRGs instead of trying to sneak them into routine fee payments? The nswer is that they know most kids (or their parents) won't notice the small $3-$8 fee or will assume that it is for legitimate purposes.

I don't honestly know the particular reasons that they do this. They just...do. I have a hard time with conspiracy theories (of any scope; and with any political stripe), so it's hard for me to seriously believe that the organization is that manipulative.

Plus I'm biased, because I volunteered (and, later, worked) with NYPIRG in my college days.

First, no one said that that most students are liberal, just that the faculty are, and they do everything in their power to brainwash the kids

Oh, okay. My bad. But, it often doesn't come across that way. :)

Second, I don't think that even liberal students appreciate being taken advantage of this way.

Well see, I just don't understand what the problem is. If they have a problem, they can ask for a refund. Period. And besides....I've never heard anyone complain. Save for the two friendly College Republicans that made fun of me when I was with College Democrats, and they were going to fill out the paperwork for their refunds.

Something else that I forgot to add in my other post up there. I'm not sure if this is the case at every campus, but I think it probably is. The PIRG has to hold a student referrendum every four years (2 for undergrad; I'm not 100% on the numbers, but I think so). Students have the power to boot the organization off campus. All they have to do is organize and vote against them. If they vote against the PIRG, then the PIRG leaves the campus (I don't know exactly what happens after that, maybe they have another referendum in another 4 years and ask the students if they can come back? Please don't take my word for it though, just a guess).
 
Activity Fee: $58.11

No option not to pay.

Regardless ...

WyldOne:
If someone wants my money - even "just a little bit" of it, they are welcome to ask me to give freely. Perhaps I'm simply too selfish and paranoid, but it seems dishonest and sneaky to me to force everyone to pay and make those who don't want to dish out money to causes they oppose go through a refund process to get their money back, or to "uncheck" an obscure option on a form. I don't care whether it is backed by Nader, Chucky Heston or a local campus group - it isn't an honorable way of funding political programs.
Seems a lot to me like someone sneaking into my room at night to take singles out of my wallet and saying after they were caught that "oh ... we wouldn't have done it if you had asked us not to beforehand."

Tell me about those "referendums", though. How many non-PIRG students are even aware of them?
And besides....I've never heard anyone complain.
Might have been because few even knew about it?
 
Here is some of PIRG's work "in the public interest" at the University of Connecticut.

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I'm proud to say I discovered this liberal scam and opted-out of contributing since day 1.

With the size reduction, it is difficult to read the captions under Steps 1 and 2. They read as follows:
Step 1: "In the event we are able to "relax" clean air standards, just place strap of smog-filter mask over head."

Step 2: "Tug on straps to make sure mask fits tightly to keep out normal (but dangerous) power plant emissions."
 
Lord Grey Boots- Thank you! I was beginning to think I hallucinated all my previous conversations. :)

cordex,
If someone wants my money - even "just a little bit" of it, they are welcome to ask me to give freely.

But they do ask. Paying a student activity fee is part of attending College X. And the PIRG thing is just another activity fee. Except this one, unlike the school's activity fee, is refundable.

Perhaps I'm simply too selfish and paranoid, but it seems dishonest and sneaky to me to force everyone to pay and make those who don't want to dish out money to causes they oppose go through a refund process to get their money back,

But, isn't this (by "this" I mean all these fee's etc) just part of going to college these days? The PIRG fee is hardly the only arbitrary fee that college students face. (And have I mentioned it's refundable? :)). I'm actually interested in why there isn't more of an uproar over the school mandatory, non-refundable fee, that funds such groups as the prolife and prochoice groups; college dems and college republicans; etc ad infinitum.

or to "uncheck" an obscure option on a form.

To be fair, I have no idea what this check/uncheck thingy is all about, so I'd really rather not comment on it at all. :)

I don't care whether it is backed by Nader, Chucky Heston or a local campus group - it isn't an honorable way of funding political programs.

Well....From my experience, this is the only way that campus political events/actions/campaigns/etc are funded.

Seems a lot to me like someone sneaking into my room at night to take singles out of my wallet and saying after they were caught that "oh ... we wouldn't have done it if you had asked us not to beforehand."

Well, it's on your bill. So it's not exactly like someone doing something without telling you about it. If you choose not to listen when they tell you, that's fine; but it's not their fault.

Tell me about those "referendums", though. How many non-PIRG students are even aware of them?

Um, I don't know what you want to know. Also, keep in mind that I graduated in 99 so my memory is pretty fuzzy by now. :) But I'll do my best.

AS far as how many students are aware? LOL that's probably a more loaded question than you realize. Let's forget about the PIRGs for a second while I explain. You see, no matter how hard the College Democrats, College Republicans, etc try, most students are apathetic as all getout. It's next to impossible to get them to care about more than going out on Thursday/Friday night, the coolest frat, etc. This isn't meant as a stereotype, merely my recollections as a frustrated student activist who often spent time with other frustrated student activists. It isn't easy when people try really hard NOT to know. RKBA folk should be able to relate, right? :)

Anyway. Taking the above into consideration, the PIRGs (well, the one PIRG that I have experience with), try to get the students' attention. They take out relatively large ads in the daily student newspaper (though these ads aren't cheap, hence the lack of full-page ads that I've seen. Y'know?). There's usually spirited debate in the student newspaper, for the 2 other students besides myself who choose to go to Student Government Association meetings (picture C-SPAN, but with college kids :(), there's usually spirited debate there too.

And of course there's flyers all over the place, on the main bulletin boards, in the student center, etc. I'll look through my scrap books and see if I have any helpful info from when I worked on the referendum (I don't remember what I kept and what I've thrown out though, so don't get your hopes up :))


Might have been because few even knew about it?

Not likely, considering that my circle of friends consisted of primarily (if not totally?) student activists. Yes, activists of all stripes, not just liberals. :)
 
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