National Ordnance M1 Carbine

[peabody304]

Just trying to do my part to perpetuate the rumors....

I found a thread on Gunboards about CMP M1 Carbine rumors: http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=209331
that refered to this post on CSP:
http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/carbine/carbine.pl?read=48704

I think I'll wait for offical word from the CMP. There's supposed to be an update sometime next week (Feb 16 - 18).

I just hope the CMP M1 Carbine rumor doesn't show up on Myth Busters or Snopes.

-peabody

 

[zinj]

I am reading a bunch of "I heard this, I have a friend that says that, here is what they are saying on X message boards, but I still haven't seen any real solid information

 

[AZ Jeff]

A National Ordnance M1 Carbine may not be collectable, but it's probably going to be serviceable, meaning that it will go bang regularly, and be at least as accurate as some of the "Blue Sky" carbines imported from Korea back in the late 1980's.

A typical NO carbine will be probably all GI parts, less the receiver, which is an investment cast copy of the GI design. Larry Ruth's books on the carbine talk about the NO copies (which were one of several commercial copies made in the 1960's), and I don't remember any statements being made about them being sub-standard.

As a shooter, an NO carbine with good parts in it should do just fine.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I looked at a National Ordnance 1903 back in the late sixties
or early seventies. As much as I had always wanted a
Springfield, it just did not look right: I could not for the
life of me identify the wood in the stock, but it was soft.
Of course I am relying on an old memory.

 

[Caimlas]

I passed up the opportunity to buy both an M1 Garand and an M1 Carbine in good to very good condition - both USGI - last Christmas (ie 14 months ago), for $550 each. I'm still kicking myself...

 

[zinj]

It has been confirmed, the Carbines are from Italy.

 

[yipper]

national ordnance carbine

I have a National Ordnance carbine that shoots just as well as my Inland. As AZ Jeff mentioned above, it has a cast receiver and almost all the rest is GI.

geoff

 

[andyjason]

sorry for raising this from the dead.

i was in a gunshop this morn and they had a national ord. m1 on the shelf for $285. i was wondering how corriea liked his now?

 

[22/22mag]

I bought a National Ord, .30 carbine few years ago its been a very easy carry shooting rifle never a stall or jam I take it out of the safe every year and shoot 75-100 rds clean it and back it go's.

 

[Correia]

It isn't a primary gun by any means. I've put about 200 rounds through it since February is all. It hasn't malfunctioned, and surprised me with accuracy. I didn't put it on paper, but aiming at the head of an 18" plate at 200, and I can nail it in the body every time.

So no real in-depth testing, just screwing around. Nightcrawler shot it. I think he liked it. I picked it up for like $180, and that seemed like a great price for anything that actually shoots.

 

[dfariswheel]

On the National Ordnance rifles, particularly the M1 Carbine:

These were made up from new commercial cast receivers and all-USGI used parts.

The receivers were cast in a time when casting receivers was still fairly new to the gun industry.

The problems with the NO carbines were largely related to the quality of the used GI parts, since some parts were heavily used and refinished, and to simple quality control of the casting and assembly off the rifle.

Most NO rifles were quite serviceable shooters.
I've never seen or heard of a failed receiver from shooting, BUT......
The NO Carbine receiver has a void in the casting on the right hand side, internally, and can cause the receiver to break or crush if an attempt is made to re-barrel one.

This doesn't happen EVERY time, but it is a factor.

 

[lamazza]

I used to own one. It was from the 60's made from,in part, GI parts. It was very dependable. Despite what people say about Natl Ord being cheap and unreliable, that was definately not the case with the one that I owned.